Cosmic Penguin

You know, I am well aware of elon time, but he has blown timelines out the door with starship. Why are you so certain that a cicumlunar flight will not be before 2025/26?

I think Crewed missions are a very different beast than uncrewed. I don’t even doubt Starship (with Super Heavy) could reach orbit next year, but look how long it took to get crew on Dragon....

No way they do a Starship/Super Heavy orbital flight next year. No way in heck.

All I’m thinking is I hope they put the grid fin orders in already at the titanium foundry.

No kidding. Those are going to be way bigger for SuperHeavy...

If @Robotbeat is right that should speed thinks up but they will be heavy with heavier actuators. That plus the six legs...eating up the budget.

Depends. They may be able to make them thinner, too.

The booster can tolerate a lot of dry mass growth. It will probably do droneship landings at first.