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    CopperheadOS‏ @CopperheadOS 23 Nov 2017

    Post to LKML from a Google engineer about Clang-compiled kernels as shipped in production on the Pixel 2 and soon on Chromebooks: https://lkml.org/lkml/2017/11/22/943 ….

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      2. CopperheadOS‏ @CopperheadOS 23 Nov 2017

        Android Open Source Project / Android moved to Clang for userspace and the NDK (third party apps). Clang-compiled kernels are the end of the road for GCC in the Android ecosystem.

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      3. CopperheadOS‏ @CopperheadOS 23 Nov 2017

        Clang-compiled kernels will provide KMSan (GCC doesn't have MSan), improved UBSan and the opportunity to share work on mitigations with userspace both for Google (likely CFI and SafeStack) and for us downstream (small current features like -fsanitize=local-init and more to come).

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      4. CopperheadOS‏ @CopperheadOS 23 Nov 2017

        A prominent example for UBSan is that the integer sanitizer works reliably in Clang and can be used in trapping mode for production which Android is doing. There's a good chance of Google adopting it in the kernel now but CFI / SafeStack will likely be first. @johnregehr @wdtz

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      5. CopperheadOS‏ @CopperheadOS 23 Nov 2017

        GCC integer sanitizer has false positives so it's unusable beyond finding bugs and be quite annoying for that. Rest of the UBSan implementation has similar issues and MSan / SafeStack / CFI / other features are completely missing. Lacks any pros to make up for those cons too.

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      1. the grugq‏ @thegrugq_ebooks 23 Nov 2017
        Replying to @CopperheadOS

        basic engineers at Google about the things I've done for infosec over the years, I think this 2 yr thread might be the best.

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