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    1. 𝓝𝓪𝓽𝓪𝓵𝓲𝓮 𝓦𝔂𝓷𝓷  💎‏ @ContraPoints 12 Feb 2018
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      Arielle frames this issue as an *attack on lesbianism*—t r a n s a c t i v i s t s (we're told) insist that lesbians "should" be attracted to trans women. Arielle responds: lesbians aren't attracted to trans women BECAUSE they're lesbians—ie because they're attracted to *women.*

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    2. 𝓝𝓪𝓽𝓪𝓵𝓲𝓮 𝓦𝔂𝓷𝓷  💎‏ @ContraPoints 12 Feb 2018
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      Arielle believes and advocates the idea that people are only attracted to trans people on the basis of their birth sex. She mentions having dated a trans man because she was attracted to him *as a woman.*

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    3. 𝓝𝓪𝓽𝓪𝓵𝓲𝓮 𝓦𝔂𝓷𝓷  💎‏ @ContraPoints 12 Feb 2018
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      She repeatedly suggests that any and all so-called "lesbians" who are into trans women are actually just bisexuals who could never understand the true lesbian mentality.

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    4. 𝓝𝓪𝓽𝓪𝓵𝓲𝓮 𝓦𝔂𝓷𝓷  💎‏ @ContraPoints 12 Feb 2018
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      Corollary: trans women are not *really* women, trans men are not *really* men.

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    5. 𝓝𝓪𝓽𝓪𝓵𝓲𝓮 𝓦𝔂𝓷𝓷  💎‏ @ContraPoints 12 Feb 2018
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      Blaire "trannies are mentally ill" White is trotted out as usual to be the lapdog of any transphobes trying to cover their tracks, and she reassures Arielle that Arielle is fine, that it's the t r a n s a c t i v i s t s who are crazed rapey homophobes.

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    6. 𝓝𝓪𝓽𝓪𝓵𝓲𝓮 𝓦𝔂𝓷𝓷  💎‏ @ContraPoints 12 Feb 2018
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      But I know that, in fact, Blaire knows better. I know, @MsBlaireWhite, that *you know* that straight men are attracted to you, and gay men are not. But Blaire decides not to mention this.

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    7. 𝓝𝓪𝓽𝓪𝓵𝓲𝓮 𝓦𝔂𝓷𝓷  💎‏ @ContraPoints 12 Feb 2018
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      What's important is that Arielle is not claiming merely that she "has a right" not to sleep with trans women, nor that she is not a bigot for preferring not to, but that *attraction to women itself* necessarily excludes attraction to trans women.

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    8. 𝓝𝓪𝓽𝓪𝓵𝓲𝓮 𝓦𝔂𝓷𝓷  💎‏ @ContraPoints 12 Feb 2018
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      Hence this language of "I'm not into trans women BECAUSE I'm a lesbian." Why would being a lesbian preclude attraction to trans women unless trans women are not women?

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    9. 𝓝𝓪𝓽𝓪𝓵𝓲𝓮 𝓦𝔂𝓷𝓷  💎‏ @ContraPoints 12 Feb 2018
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      Blaire acts down with this, but would she be down with Arielle saying "straight men aren't attracted to you because they're not gay"? Performatively she might be, though the testimony of her actual experience says otherwise, as Blaire herself has discussed elsewhere.

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    10. 𝓝𝓪𝓽𝓪𝓵𝓲𝓮 𝓦𝔂𝓷𝓷  💎‏ @ContraPoints 12 Feb 2018
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      There's a video or stream (link anyone?) where Blaire discusses how she believes she increases trans acceptance merely by looking the way she does. Men tell her "I never thought I'd be attracted to a trans woman because I never thought a trans woman could look like you."

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      𝓝𝓪𝓽𝓪𝓵𝓲𝓮 𝓦𝔂𝓷𝓷  💎‏ @ContraPoints 12 Feb 2018
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      And here's the critical point: these men thought that they would never be attracted to a trans woman *because they had an ignorant misconception* about the way trans women look.

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        2. 𝓝𝓪𝓽𝓪𝓵𝓲𝓮 𝓦𝔂𝓷𝓷  💎‏ @ContraPoints 12 Feb 2018
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          And THIS is the point that Riley, Zinnia, Kat, et al keep making, which everyone seems so determined to misinterpret: not that you're a bigot for not being into trans people, but that the *assumption* that you aren't is often based on ignorant misconceptions about trans people.

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        3. 𝓝𝓪𝓽𝓪𝓵𝓲𝓮 𝓦𝔂𝓷𝓷  💎‏ @ContraPoints 12 Feb 2018
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          Now I do think it's important for us as activists to avoid "shamey" language when discussing this, because we'd all rather be seduced than lectured, and because these misconceptions are the rule, not the exception.

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        4. 𝓝𝓪𝓽𝓪𝓵𝓲𝓮 𝓦𝔂𝓷𝓷  💎‏ @ContraPoints 12 Feb 2018
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          In fact, I used to share these misconceptions myself! Five years ago I wouldn't have thought I'd want to sleep with a trans person. When I first came out myself, I assumed that only bisexuals would ever be into me. I couldn't imagine that a gay girl or straight guy could be.

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        5. 𝓝𝓪𝓽𝓪𝓵𝓲𝓮 𝓦𝔂𝓷𝓷  💎‏ @ContraPoints 12 Feb 2018
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          Wrong on all counts, as it turns out. There's not a shortage of exclusively gynephilic people who are into me—and I'm far from the most cis-passing of trans women.

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        6. 𝓝𝓪𝓽𝓪𝓵𝓲𝓮 𝓦𝔂𝓷𝓷  💎‏ @ContraPoints 12 Feb 2018
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          Likewise the experience of being intimate with trans women has (TMI ahoy) been kind of amazing. I'd go so far as to say that it's hard to grasp the full visceral truth of the slogan "trans women are women" until you've been there. It feels like being with a woman.

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        7. 𝓝𝓪𝓽𝓪𝓵𝓲𝓮 𝓦𝔂𝓷𝓷  💎‏ @ContraPoints 12 Feb 2018
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          (Not necessarily the case for all trans women of course, and alas. If she's been presenting male for decades and came out yesterday she probably won't "feel" like a woman to most people.)

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        8. 𝓝𝓪𝓽𝓪𝓵𝓲𝓮 𝓦𝔂𝓷𝓷  💎‏ @ContraPoints 12 Feb 2018
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          Whether or not someone "feels" like a woman is of course somewhat subjective and mysterious. But I can assure you that the experience is possible.

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        9. 𝓝𝓪𝓽𝓪𝓵𝓲𝓮 𝓦𝔂𝓷𝓷  💎‏ @ContraPoints 12 Feb 2018
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          Arielle, however, is not only not interested in having this experience (which is totally fine, only do it if you really want to!), but she's seemingly intent on denying that anyone else has or can have this experience.

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        10. 𝓝𝓪𝓽𝓪𝓵𝓲𝓮 𝓦𝔂𝓷𝓷  💎‏ @ContraPoints 12 Feb 2018
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          This arrogant presumption is exacerbated by Arielle's ignorant notion of what sex with trans women is like. She says: "I don't even like strap ons, I don't want to be penetrated at all!"

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        11. 𝓝𝓪𝓽𝓪𝓵𝓲𝓮 𝓦𝔂𝓷𝓷  💎‏ @ContraPoints 12 Feb 2018
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          Anyone who knows what they're talking about knows that not wanting to be topped by a trans woman is unlikely to be a problem. Much more common is the opposite issue: chasers want us to top them and we have no interest in doing that.

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        12. 𝓝𝓪𝓽𝓪𝓵𝓲𝓮 𝓦𝔂𝓷𝓷  💎‏ @ContraPoints 12 Feb 2018
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          Some trans women are into topping, but many if not most are not. Some trans women don't have penises at all, and some who do aren't interested in using them in any way.

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        13. 𝓝𝓪𝓽𝓪𝓵𝓲𝓮 𝓦𝔂𝓷𝓷  💎‏ @ContraPoints 12 Feb 2018
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          You might think, "some trans women are attractive but I'm not into dicks." That might be less of a problem than you think. Would you be into one of those trans women going down on you?

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        14. 𝓝𝓪𝓽𝓪𝓵𝓲𝓮 𝓦𝔂𝓷𝓷  💎‏ @ContraPoints 12 Feb 2018
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          Now again I really must emphasize that I'm not trying to persuade or coerce anyone into having sex with trans women. Repeat x 1000000: don't fuck a trans woman unless you think she's sexy as hell and are super into it.

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        15. 𝓝𝓪𝓽𝓪𝓵𝓲𝓮 𝓦𝔂𝓷𝓷  💎‏ @ContraPoints 12 Feb 2018
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          But Arielle is not merely defending sexual autonomy and the right to choose who you fuck. If that were all she was doing I'd be in complete agreement.

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        16. 𝓝𝓪𝓽𝓪𝓵𝓲𝓮 𝓦𝔂𝓷𝓷  💎‏ @ContraPoints 12 Feb 2018
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          But in fact she's pushing ignorant ideas about trans people and trans sexuality, she's erasing the experiences of everyone who is attracted to trans people, and she's using the whole issue as a weapon with which to malign us as homophobic, predatory, and entitled.

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        17. 𝓝𝓪𝓽𝓪𝓵𝓲𝓮 𝓦𝔂𝓷𝓷  💎‏ @ContraPoints 12 Feb 2018
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          End thread. Could've done a whole video response but I only do one video a month and I have other topics to cover that are higher priorities. Peace 🌸

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