So Warski hosting Spencer is great for Spencer, who gets the exposure he craves, and for Warski, who profits from the superchats and boosts his audience by hosting a NUMBER 1 ON YOUTUBE LIVE WOOO
stream. Come one, come all, hear what the Nazi has to say.https://twitter.com/Andywarski/status/949138321652854784 …
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No one pauses to think how dangerous this person is to POC, queer people, etc. Does anyone care how they might feel about this? Of course not! Facts over feels, fuck your feelings!
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This is the attitude I'm calling "frat-boy obliviousness to the fact that things matter and have consequences." It's the same single-minded focus on clicks that led an American tourist to vlog a suicide corpse in a foreign country.
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Did Logan Paul pause to wonder how the family of the suicide victim would feel? Nope! Did DaddyOFive pause to wonder what effect his pranks might have on his kids? Nope! YouTube breeds a mentality where only clicks matter.
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How do you think Heather Heyer's family would feel about Dick Spencer YouTube discussion streams? No one cares! No one paused to think about it!
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I say all this, by the way, as someone who has until recently been a sometime participant, though not host, in debate streams with some highly questionable people.
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I don't think debates are bad, but I think that some people are too vile to be included in these high-profile discussions. It's hard to make the judgment call where exactly to draw the line (esp with so much vileness on YouTube). But Spencer is clearly over the line.
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When I see leftists reacting to Warski's stream as if the problem was "it was an unbalanced debate, there should have been more leftists!" I kind of cringe. We all know a leftist who did a stream with Spencer would be disowned by half of lefty Twitter overnight.
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The question debate organizers should ask themselves is: who are we choosing to put before an audience? What ideas are we giving a voice to?
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So you’d suggest fascism to combat fascism? While I agree their ideas are disgusting, I think the best way to combat those ideas is to expose them for what they are and show other people that they are wrong and why.
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"I think the best way to combat those ideas is to expose them for what they are and show other people that they are wrong and why." I agree, but hosting a stream for Spencer and his ideological neighbors is not a good way to do this.
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Oh, I agree he did this the wrong way. While some were really getting on Spencer for his shitty ideas, it wasn’t really enough. And Warski’s friendliness towards Spencer and Millennial Woes really bugged me.
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