This tweet comparing right-wing YouTube to Logan Paul's travel vlogs has generated some debate. Here's a quick thread elaborating on what I meant.https://twitter.com/ContraPoints/status/949189978206162944 …
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So Warski hosting Spencer is great for Spencer, who gets the exposure he craves, and for Warski, who profits from the superchats and boosts his audience by hosting a NUMBER 1 ON YOUTUBE LIVE WOOO
stream. Come one, come all, hear what the Nazi has to say.https://twitter.com/Andywarski/status/949138321652854784 …Show this thread -
No one pauses to think how dangerous this person is to POC, queer people, etc. Does anyone care how they might feel about this? Of course not! Facts over feels, fuck your feelings!
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This is the attitude I'm calling "frat-boy obliviousness to the fact that things matter and have consequences." It's the same single-minded focus on clicks that led an American tourist to vlog a suicide corpse in a foreign country.
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Did Logan Paul pause to wonder how the family of the suicide victim would feel? Nope! Did DaddyOFive pause to wonder what effect his pranks might have on his kids? Nope! YouTube breeds a mentality where only clicks matter.
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How do you think Heather Heyer's family would feel about Dick Spencer YouTube discussion streams? No one cares! No one paused to think about it!
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I say all this, by the way, as someone who has until recently been a sometime participant, though not host, in debate streams with some highly questionable people.
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I don't think debates are bad, but I think that some people are too vile to be included in these high-profile discussions. It's hard to make the judgment call where exactly to draw the line (esp with so much vileness on YouTube). But Spencer is clearly over the line.
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When I see leftists reacting to Warski's stream as if the problem was "it was an unbalanced debate, there should have been more leftists!" I kind of cringe. We all know a leftist who did a stream with Spencer would be disowned by half of lefty Twitter overnight.
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The question debate organizers should ask themselves is: who are we choosing to put before an audience? What ideas are we giving a voice to?
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The idea that hosting a Nazi discussion stream with 10,000 viewers is politically neutral is about as plausible as the idea that vlogging a suicide corpse raises awareness for mental health.
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(I totally agree that
@DickCoughlan calling Richard Spencer a rotten spunk smudge would have improved the stream 500 fold.)https://twitter.com/GPSolomon/status/949452130074624006 …Show this thread
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