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    1. DatNoFact  ↗‏ @datnofact 7 Nov 2017
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      But maybe it does carry too much baggage. I'd be fine with just calling it "transphobia". Another word that gets overused, though.

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    2. Laci Green‏Verified account @gogreen18 7 Nov 2017
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      i don’t like it for a number of reasons that i’ll explain in a vid someday. but for now, the fact that i’m now “terf #1” is case in point.

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    3. Laci Green‏Verified account @gogreen18 7 Nov 2017
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      how you can write trans inclusive curriculum, advocate at the white house, make a dozen curricular vids + still be a “terf” is beyond me.

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    4. DatNoFact  ↗‏ @datnofact 7 Nov 2017
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      I don't think you're a terf, and that goes back to my issue with the bar being so relative. It's a problem with subjective standards.

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    5. DatNoFact  ↗‏ @datnofact 7 Nov 2017
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      Replying to @datnofact @gogreen18 @jessesingal

      I think "transphobic" is probably general enough that we don't need a derogatory term, but it still suffers that same problem.

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    6. Laci Green‏Verified account @gogreen18 7 Nov 2017
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      same prob yeah, but “transphobic” is an appropriate term with a definition, vs than a weaponized pejorative that targets mostly females.

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    7. 𝓝𝓪𝓽𝓪𝓵𝓲𝓮 𝓦𝔂𝓷𝓷  💎‏ @ContraPoints 7 Nov 2017
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      Replying to @gogreen18 @datnofact @jessesingal

      the phrase "targets mostly females" suggests not only the idea that sex is biological (binary, = to birth assignment, etc) but also that sex (& not gender) really matters. I don't think you mean this, but talking about "females" like this has a whiff of "trans women aren't women"

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    8. Laci Green‏Verified account @gogreen18 7 Nov 2017
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      Replying to @ContraPoints @datnofact @jessesingal

      it is typically hurled at cis women, not trans women (though there are exceptions). and sex is biological. not here for misinformation.

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    9. 𝓝𝓪𝓽𝓪𝓵𝓲𝓮 𝓦𝔂𝓷𝓷  💎‏ @ContraPoints 7 Nov 2017
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      I'm not saying sex isn't biological. Only that by describing "TERF" as a slur against "females" (and presumably brandished by "males"—i.e. trans women) one steps into imo pretty sketchy territory.

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    10. Laci Green‏Verified account @gogreen18 7 Nov 2017
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      Replying to @ContraPoints @datnofact @jessesingal

      how is acknowledging it is mostly used pejoratively against females sketchy? it happens to me everyday, sometimes with threats of violence.

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      𝓝𝓪𝓽𝓪𝓵𝓲𝓮 𝓦𝔂𝓷𝓷  💎‏ @ContraPoints 7 Nov 2017
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      Replying to @gogreen18 @datnofact @jessesingal

      it's simply evocative of a transphobic narrative that trans women are "male aggressors" menacing females. Even saying "cis women" instead of "females" wouldn't evoke that so much. (btw, I do get where you're coming from re overblown "TERF" accusations on Twitter)

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        2. Laci Green‏Verified account @gogreen18 7 Nov 2017
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          Replying to @ContraPoints @datnofact @jessesingal

          right. well, in that case, don’t read more into what i wrote than what i actually wrote. 👻

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        3. 𝓝𝓪𝓽𝓪𝓵𝓲𝓮 𝓦𝔂𝓷𝓷  💎‏ @ContraPoints 7 Nov 2017
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          I'm just saying, it's a little like using a phrase like "thugs on welfare." Maybe it's not meant to be racially evocative, but that's kicking around in the background and some people will take it that way.

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        2. DatNoFact  ↗‏ @datnofact 7 Nov 2017
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          Replying to @ContraPoints @gogreen18 @jessesingal

          Inferred or implied, though? Because how do you discuss abuse or violence if it is happening if you can't say who or why?

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        1. francesca‏ @fuckinwank3r 7 Nov 2017
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          Saying it's used against 'females' does not imply it's used BY 'males'

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        1. francesca‏ @fuckinwank3r 7 Nov 2017
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          Replying to @ContraPoints @gogreen18 and

          in fact i'd say the word terf is used mostly BY cis (and trans) women towards other cis women, ive never seen men use it.

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