Is it really "if you won't sleep with me" though, or is it, "if you categorically rule out being with anyone who's trans"?
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Replying to @ContraPoints @gogreen18
The framing should be "consider why you'd categorically rule out trans people," and I grant it's sometimes presented more aggro than that
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Replying to @ContraPoints @gogreen18
"you're transphobic if you won't sleep with trans people" is not a good way to put it. And I'm sure it's sometimes put that way.
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Replying to @ContraPoints
for sure. some are just making the argument poorly. that said, i have trans friends who genuinely argue genital preference can be changed.
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Replying to @gogreen18
Actually, I'd also argue that genital pref can be flexible. It has been in my case! But that seems like a separate question.
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i don't think it's a separate question for people who are gay. *can* be flexible is the key, it's flexible for people who are bi.
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Replying to @gogreen18
There are e.g. a lot of straight guys who are into trans women but not guys. I don't think that makes them bi—
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Replying to @ContraPoints @gogreen18
I think genitals are only part of what's involved when someone says e.g. "I'm attracted to women"
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Replying to @ContraPoints @gogreen18
most of what we're attracted to in other people is not their genitals, in most cases
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Replying to @ContraPoints @gogreen18
the terminology always comes apart at the edges, and there is not clear definition of when sex goes from straight sex to gay sex
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but the idea that a man having sex with a trans woman is necessarily gay sex is problematic because 1 it invalidates trans identity and—
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Replying to @ContraPoints @gogreen18
2 fans "trans panic" type feelings where straight men are threatened by their attraction to trans women and lash out at them in response
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