BUT, I can now weigh in a little and give some idea of what I think it means and what we should do about it.
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Two definite things: 1) Saul is the only one who is correct and 2) he loses this debate totally and utterly
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Fritz is a predatory fascist and Jackie is either an extremely naïve inadvertent enabler or an intentionally malicious one
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Saul responds to Fritz by completely shutting down, by being baffled and bewildered and offended and shocked. He's frankly astonished.
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Saul is completely ineffectual, and every single leftist has been him at one time or another. I definitely have. We all have.
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The big debate is whether Saul's mistake is 1) that he doesn't walk out of the room immediately or 2) that he doesn't use better rhetoric
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I think either would be better than what he does.
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There's a reason why it comes as a big relief when Abigail Cockbane shows up. Cockbane is a bit villainous herself be she doesn't take shit.
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If Cockbane debated Fritz nothing productive would happen but at least she wouldn't be bullied. She'd interrupt, accuse, get real ugly.
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But what she does is leave immediately. She won't even consider walking into the room with Fritz. And that works out better for her TBH
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So if there's a "lesson" I guess it's that we have to work on not being Saul. Maybe that means walking out of rooms like that.
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Or maybe it means developing anti-Fritz rhetorical strategies. But I honestly don't yet know what those are.
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I can't say I've ever seen someone in debate with a Pepe-grinning fascist come out on top. But if it could be done it'd be worth doing.
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