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    1. 𝓝𝓪𝓽𝓪𝓵𝓲𝓮 𝓦𝔂𝓷𝓷  💎‏ @ContraPoints 12 Jun 2018
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      Some thoughts about MtF transition, FFS, conformity, gender stereotypes, and "cis assimilation." If you're feeling dysphoric or likely to be triggered by a trans woman dissecting what she thinks is "male" about her face, please don't read.

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    2. 𝓝𝓪𝓽𝓪𝓵𝓲𝓮 𝓦𝔂𝓷𝓷  💎‏ @ContraPoints 12 Jun 2018
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      Some people interpreted my last video as taking an anti-FFS (facial feminization surgery) stance, because evil Tiffany talks about wanting it. Actually, I want FFS myself, and that scene is a parody of the way people react when I mention it.

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    3. 𝓝𝓪𝓽𝓪𝓵𝓲𝓮 𝓦𝔂𝓷𝓷  💎‏ @ContraPoints 12 Jun 2018
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      In fact I've learned to avoid mentioning that I want FFS most of the time because people's reactions, trans and cis, range from polite neutrality to outraged indignation.

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    4. 𝓝𝓪𝓽𝓪𝓵𝓲𝓮 𝓦𝔂𝓷𝓷  💎‏ @ContraPoints 12 Jun 2018
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      Why? Part of it is that "plastic surgery" in general is heavily stigmatized as vain, selfish, conformist, superficial, bimboish, elitist, & possibly even immoral. And as producing results that are fake, plastic, generic, unnatural, freakish.

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    5. 𝓝𝓪𝓽𝓪𝓵𝓲𝓮 𝓦𝔂𝓷𝓷  💎‏ @ContraPoints 12 Jun 2018
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      There's also a thing where other women, trans and cis, experience my desire to change my face as an implicit critique of their own appearance (which is what happens with Jackie in the video).

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    6. 𝓝𝓪𝓽𝓪𝓵𝓲𝓮 𝓦𝔂𝓷𝓷  💎‏ @ContraPoints 12 Jun 2018
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      Most of this stuff usually hovers in the background, and the explicit reaction is "What? Why?? Your face is perfect already! You're so beautiful! Lots of cis women have features like that! Your nose was sculpted to perfect proportions by Aphrodite herself!"

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    7. 𝓝𝓪𝓽𝓪𝓵𝓲𝓮 𝓦𝔂𝓷𝓷  💎‏ @ContraPoints 12 Jun 2018
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      Some of this is sincere, some is motivated by the assumptions & anxieties discussed above, & some is hugbox insincerity that I'm not inclined to take any more seriously than the TERFs who try to convince me I'm so hopelessly masculine that I could never be read as a woman.

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    8. 𝓝𝓪𝓽𝓪𝓵𝓲𝓮 𝓦𝔂𝓷𝓷  💎‏ @ContraPoints 12 Jun 2018
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      The reality is that I almost universally get "she/her" from strangers, though some of them clock me as trans. Height, voice, and mannerisms probably contribute to my clockability, as well as the face issues.

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      𝓝𝓪𝓽𝓪𝓵𝓲𝓮 𝓦𝔂𝓷𝓷  💎‏ @ContraPoints 12 Jun 2018
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      But even if I were six inches shorter and perfectly cis-passing in voice and mannerisms, I'd still want FFS. I look at my face and see masculine features. Sometimes the hugboxing makes me question the validity of my perception, but it doesn't alter it.

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        2. 𝓝𝓪𝓽𝓪𝓵𝓲𝓮 𝓦𝔂𝓷𝓷  💎‏ @ContraPoints 12 Jun 2018
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          I want other people to see what I see, so they don't react like I'm crazy. It's more obvious in a profile-angle picture of me, like this (genuinely very beautiful) one Dan took on Saturday.pic.twitter.com/nSEHu5EXny

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        3. 𝓝𝓪𝓽𝓪𝓵𝓲𝓮 𝓦𝔂𝓷𝓷  💎‏ @ContraPoints 12 Jun 2018
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          The silhouette here illustrates the areas I want to adjust: hairline, browbone, trachea. Just minor adjustments in those areas. And then I want an unapologetic Hollywood rhinoplasty because I want to be pretty. (Don't we all? Why is this considered a character flaw?)

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        4. 𝓝𝓪𝓽𝓪𝓵𝓲𝓮 𝓦𝔂𝓷𝓷  💎‏ @ContraPoints 12 Jun 2018
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          "But I love your nose! It's so interesting! Petite noses are so generic and boring!" Well, my voice is also pretty interesting. And I'm interestingly tall (6'1). My shoulders and chest are interestingly wide. Personally, I think that's enough interest.

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        5. 𝓝𝓪𝓽𝓪𝓵𝓲𝓮 𝓦𝔂𝓷𝓷  💎‏ @ContraPoints 12 Jun 2018
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          I'm never going to be indistinguishable from a cis woman. I'm at best going to end up with a male skeleton trapped in a female body. Being overly cis-conformist is not high on my list of concerns. Why not change what I can?

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        6. 𝓝𝓪𝓽𝓪𝓵𝓲𝓮 𝓦𝔂𝓷𝓷  💎‏ @ContraPoints 12 Jun 2018
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          Some trans people will shake their heads at my entire way of thinking about this. The opposing viewpoint goes like this: "Trans women are women and you are valid no matter what you look like. Don't conform, revolt. Stop changing your face and start changing the world."

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        7. 𝓝𝓪𝓽𝓪𝓵𝓲𝓮 𝓦𝔂𝓷𝓷  💎‏ @ContraPoints 12 Jun 2018
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          There's def something to this, and I think that's a good psychological place to wind up at the end of transition. You can't change everything about yourself, and there comes a point where the goal should be accepting yourself as you are, society be damned, haters be fucked.

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        8. 𝓝𝓪𝓽𝓪𝓵𝓲𝓮 𝓦𝔂𝓷𝓷  💎‏ @ContraPoints 12 Jun 2018
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          But personally, I think the goal of transition is more than self-acceptance. It is to become your gender, to live your gender. Which genuinely raises the classic TERF gotcha question: "What does it mean to be a woman?" "Define womanhood."

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        9. 𝓝𝓪𝓽𝓪𝓵𝓲𝓮 𝓦𝔂𝓷𝓷  💎‏ @ContraPoints 12 Jun 2018
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          I think there are two answers, a pragmatic one and a philosophical one.

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        10. 𝓝𝓪𝓽𝓪𝓵𝓲𝓮 𝓦𝔂𝓷𝓷  💎‏ @ContraPoints 12 Jun 2018
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          The pragmatic answer is that a woman is anyone who identifies as a woman. It's pragmatic because there are many situations where it's best to *act as if it is true*—e.g. a trans woman who hasn't transitioned yet but requests she/her pronouns is entitled to that respect.

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        11. 𝓝𝓪𝓽𝓪𝓵𝓲𝓮 𝓦𝔂𝓷𝓷  💎‏ @ContraPoints 12 Jun 2018
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          However "a woman is anyone who identifies as a woman" is not a philosophically good answer. It tells you absolutely nothing about what being a woman is. So how do we answer philosophically?

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        12. 𝓝𝓪𝓽𝓪𝓵𝓲𝓮 𝓦𝔂𝓷𝓷  💎‏ @ContraPoints 12 Jun 2018
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          Well like all philosophical questions "What is womanhood?" has no definitive answer. But I'll tell you my thoughts. Remember, I'm a Wittgenstein gal: I don't think the answer can involve "identifying" because meaning is public & practical, not private & psychological.

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        13. 𝓝𝓪𝓽𝓪𝓵𝓲𝓮 𝓦𝔂𝓷𝓷  💎‏ @ContraPoints 12 Jun 2018
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          The way I think of it, the purpose of my transition is to become a woman *for most intents and purposes.* That's a very public, social goal that primarily involves the interactions I have with people around me.

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        14. 𝓝𝓪𝓽𝓪𝓵𝓲𝓮 𝓦𝔂𝓷𝓷  💎‏ @ContraPoints 12 Jun 2018
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          When I came out and said "I am a trans woman," that was not so much a metaphysical proclamation as a statement of intent to alter my behavior and appearance, and a request for other people to treat me and talk about me in a certain way.

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        15. 𝓝𝓪𝓽𝓪𝓵𝓲𝓮 𝓦𝔂𝓷𝓷  💎‏ @ContraPoints 12 Jun 2018
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          What I really want is not for people to call me a woman because they pity me, sympathize with me, or respect me. It's better than them calling me a man, but only as a last resort.

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        16. 𝓝𝓪𝓽𝓪𝓵𝓲𝓮 𝓦𝔂𝓷𝓷  💎‏ @ContraPoints 12 Jun 2018
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          Really I want them to call me a woman because it feels natural to do so, because I just seem like a woman to them. This is not something I can just demand, so a lot of the burden is on me.

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        17. 𝓝𝓪𝓽𝓪𝓵𝓲𝓮 𝓦𝔂𝓷𝓷  💎‏ @ContraPoints 12 Jun 2018
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          I have to change my appearance, my voice, my mannerisms not with the aim of becoming a woman in some metaphysical sense (a nonsensical idea) but of becoming a woman *socially* by appearing & interacting "like a woman" with other people.

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        18. 𝓝𝓪𝓽𝓪𝓵𝓲𝓮 𝓦𝔂𝓷𝓷  💎‏ @ContraPoints 12 Jun 2018
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          This is of course an extremely subjective and relative thing. Some people saw me as a woman before I ever did myself. Other people never will, no matter how I look and act, because they know that I'm trans and have decided on principle that I cannot be a woman.

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        19. 𝓝𝓪𝓽𝓪𝓵𝓲𝓮 𝓦𝔂𝓷𝓷  💎‏ @ContraPoints 12 Jun 2018
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          But subjective isn't the same as unpredictable. There is a lot of intersubjective agreement about what sorts of things make a person seem manly or womanly. And the point of transitioning is largely to present female to that collective perception.

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        20. 𝓝𝓪𝓽𝓪𝓵𝓲𝓮 𝓦𝔂𝓷𝓷  💎‏ @ContraPoints 12 Jun 2018
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          A year ago very few people thought of me as a woman. Now a majority of people probably do. My goal is to push that trend as far as I can, look back on my progress and one day say, "You know what? Good enough."

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        21. 𝓝𝓪𝓽𝓪𝓵𝓲𝓮 𝓦𝔂𝓷𝓷  💎‏ @ContraPoints 12 Jun 2018
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          Because I think about transition this way, I still use the term "MtF," which is now often considered outmoded and inaccurate, since, this way of thinking goes, trans women were always women, even before they knew it.

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        22. 𝓝𝓪𝓽𝓪𝓵𝓲𝓮 𝓦𝔂𝓷𝓷  💎‏ @ContraPoints 12 Jun 2018
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          This is another issue where I think there is a difference between the pragmatic and philosophical approach. I don't like being called "he" with reference to my pre-transition self, because it feels like I'm being misgendered now.

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        23. 𝓝𝓪𝓽𝓪𝓵𝓲𝓮 𝓦𝔂𝓷𝓷  💎‏ @ContraPoints 12 Jun 2018
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          So it's best practice to refer to trans people as if they were always their gender. But pedantically speaking, before I transitioned, I was a man *for most intents and purposes.* I was socially and publicly a man. And I'm now escaping that past situation—MtF.

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        24. 𝓝𝓪𝓽𝓪𝓵𝓲𝓮 𝓦𝔂𝓷𝓷  💎‏ @ContraPoints 12 Jun 2018
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          When people use my deadname and old pronouns, even when referring to the time when I used them, that impedes the escape.

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        25. 𝓝𝓪𝓽𝓪𝓵𝓲𝓮 𝓦𝔂𝓷𝓷  💎‏ @ContraPoints 12 Jun 2018
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          This is kind of a scary way of thinking about things because it means that trans people aren't completely in control of our own genders. But isn't that, in fact, the predicament we're in?

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        26. 𝓝𝓪𝓽𝓪𝓵𝓲𝓮 𝓦𝔂𝓷𝓷  💎‏ @ContraPoints 12 Jun 2018
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          The reason misgendering feels so horrible is that, in that moment, the person misgendering you is effectively barring you from being your gender, at least socially. That's the reason it feels oppressive. You're literally being deprived of something important to you.

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        27. 𝓝𝓪𝓽𝓪𝓵𝓲𝓮 𝓦𝔂𝓷𝓷  💎‏ @ContraPoints 12 Jun 2018
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          People who refuse to accept trans people for what they are, or what they're becoming, simultaneously attack us for not conforming ("you still have obvious male features") and for conforming ("you're just perpetuating gender stereotypes").

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        28. 𝓝𝓪𝓽𝓪𝓵𝓲𝓮 𝓦𝔂𝓷𝓷  💎‏ @ContraPoints 12 Jun 2018
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          Throughout this thread I've referred to my transition as an effort to seem "like a woman" to other people. So, what does "like a woman" mean? People who haven't thought this through will look at me and say "he thinks long hair and makeup makes him a woman!"

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        29. 𝓝𝓪𝓽𝓪𝓵𝓲𝓮 𝓦𝔂𝓷𝓷  💎‏ @ContraPoints 12 Jun 2018
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          No. Hair, makeup, surgery, voice training, mannerisms—each of these is only a small part of a general effort to change how I'm perceived, how I'm treated by others, how I interact with others.

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        30. 𝓝𝓪𝓽𝓪𝓵𝓲𝓮 𝓦𝔂𝓷𝓷  💎‏ @ContraPoints 12 Jun 2018
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          It's the net effect of these things—my acquired social position as a woman—that makes it philosophically sound to call me a woman. The minutiae of how I achieve that end are not particularly relevant.

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        31. 𝓝𝓪𝓽𝓪𝓵𝓲𝓮 𝓦𝔂𝓷𝓷  💎‏ @ContraPoints 12 Jun 2018
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          What it means to seem "like a woman" to the collective perception is, of course, in some sense to resemble a prototype—stereotype if you insist. But women are all individuals, and no one conforms perfectly.

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