This is all similar to the convo we were having a/b young men getting seduced by the alt-right: I think there's def a way to treat frustrated/angry/lonely young men as human beings deserving of empathy w/o buying into crazy ideas that they "deserve" things other groups don't
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Replying to @jessesingal
Almost every human deserves some empathy (arguably all humans at some point in their lives). But guys we're talking about in general have received too much empathy in their lives & not enough challenge.
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Replying to @HeerJeet
Oh man I really disagree with that. I dipped a toe into incel communities like 6-7 years ago with an eye toward writing about them. These guys do not feel like the object of much empathy. There's some seriously profound darkness there.
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Replying to @jessesingal @HeerJeet
I don't want to wade into the argument of whether these guys are good or bad or deserve more or less empathy. But most of them have extremely severe social and emotional disabilities. Maybe society did it, but they're not an attitude adjustment away from being normal
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Replying to @stephenjudkins @HeerJeet
Right, and I do think that it's interesting that in most cases we'd reject arguments of the form "This group just needs to buck up -- we've gone too soft on them"
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One can strive for individual empathy while abhorring a group's philosophy. The incel movement is encouraging young men to hate women while feeling entitled to sex with the most attractive of women.
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