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    1. Khaz‏ @KhazWolf Oct 13
      Replying to @CircsUp @brownburr42 @Mindofown

      Which point of yours are you claiming these prove exactly? What is this screenshot from?

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    2. Parental Support‏ @CircsUp Oct 13
      Replying to @KhazWolf @brownburr42 @Mindofown

      Infant mortality rates. Causes. As published by the NICHD. What part of the thread are you jumping into haphazardly?

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    3. Khaz‏ @KhazWolf Oct 13
      Replying to @CircsUp @brownburr42 @Mindofown

      I don't understand your mortality rate argument. Your graph shows coutries that circumcise have higher rates. Circumcision has declined significantly in all listed countries over that time (except maybe Norway was always low?). Both support our argument. What's your point?

      1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
    4. terraxa‏ @terraxa1 Oct 13
      Replying to @KhazWolf @CircsUp and

      guess he's close to a collapsing short circuit breakdown

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    5. Parental Support‏ @CircsUp Oct 13
      Replying to @terraxa1 @KhazWolf and

      Infant health is better everywhere. Circumcision is listed nowhere as a factor for any of it. Pretty simple really. I’d argue that circumcision is safer now than ever.

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    6. Khaz‏ @KhazWolf Oct 13
      Replying to @CircsUp @terraxa1 and

      "Not listed in my sources" is not the same as "isn't a factor". All it means is that your sources either missed it or didn't want to mention it. The source I've already provided you shows that there IS a connection whether your sources are aware or not:https://www.researchgate.net/publication/326040454_Factors_associated_with_early_deaths_following_neonatal_male_circumcision_in_the_United_States_2001-2010 …

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    7. Parental Support‏ @CircsUp Oct 13
      Replying to @KhazWolf @terraxa1 and

      StatsCan doesn’t have circumcision in their top 12 causes of infant death even, but I’ll keep looking for you........

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    8. Khaz‏ @KhazWolf Oct 13
      Replying to @CircsUp @terraxa1 and

      Okay so just assuming you're not lying, are you saying everything that's not a top 12 cause of infant death doesn't matter? If some parents decided to shoot their kids in the leg with a gun at birth, and the death rate from that didn't make the top 12, you'd sign off on it?

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    9. Parental Support‏ @CircsUp Oct 13
      Replying to @KhazWolf @terraxa1 and

      I wish you read the thread from the start. Our friend’s argument suggested that Australia’s circ rate had a huge impact on infant mortality rates. That’s false.

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    10. Khaz‏ @KhazWolf Oct 13
      Replying to @CircsUp @terraxa1 and

      You've given no proof that it's false, only conjecture based on a hand-picked list of institutions NOT mentioning it. That doesn't prove anything.

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      Parental Support‏ @CircsUp Oct 13
      Replying to @KhazWolf @terraxa1 and

      Lol. The burden of proof goes both ways my friend. Find a source that says circumcision is a major cause of infant death then will ya.

      4:47 PM - 13 Oct 2018
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        2. Khaz‏ @KhazWolf Oct 13
          Replying to @CircsUp @terraxa1 and

          I already linked you a source that identified "1 early death for every 49,166 newborn inpatient circumcisions" https://www.researchgate.net/publication/326040454_Factors_associated_with_early_deaths_following_neonatal_male_circumcision_in_the_United_States_2001-2010 … A number that is certainly a gross underestimate since it ONLY counted cases where death occurred during the same hospital admission as the cut

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        3. Khaz‏ @KhazWolf Oct 13
          Replying to @KhazWolf @CircsUp and

          Cases like this wouldn't count: https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2007/feb/17/religion.world1 … People have estimated the total impact outside that constraint and concluded ~117 deaths per year in USA alone: https://www.academia.edu/6394940/Lost_Boys_An_Estimate_of_U.S._Circumcision-Related_Infant_Deaths … You are trying to justify forcing unnecessary surgery on kids that causes this.

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        4. Parental Support‏ @CircsUp Oct 13
          Replying to @KhazWolf @terraxa1 and

          Lol. “Estimated” data and selective sources. By your own logic, all day, these are BS. You should expect better of yourself considering the high bar you’ve established for fact and proof.

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        5. Khaz‏ @KhazWolf Oct 13
          Replying to @CircsUp @terraxa1 and

          I cited you original research from someone who directly went through case reports to compile a fact-based evaluation of the number of deaths that occurred in the same hospital admission as the circumcision, probably took years of work, and you dismiss it with "BS". Learn to read

          2 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
        6. Kaleb Brown‏ @brownburr42 Oct 13
          Replying to @KhazWolf @CircsUp and

          This conversation has turned into a classic example of the bullshit asymmetry principle. @KhazWolf is the only one citing real studies and numbers... I think @CircsUp's fallacy is refusing to recognize that any preventable cause of infant death should be avoided...

          2 replies 0 retweets 3 likes
        7. Parental Support‏ @CircsUp Oct 13
          Replying to @brownburr42 @KhazWolf and

          BS? There a several acronyms you can consider when educating yourself or others on the benefits of circumcision. CPS, AAP, CDC, WHO are a few good ones but I hope you’re up to speed on those already.

          3 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
        8. Ian Wilkinson‏ @Mindofown Oct 13
          Replying to @CircsUp @brownburr42 and

          #i2 @AmAcadPeds @CDCgov @WHO are in general highly respected organizations, however on the subject of male circumcision there is evidence they are and have been called out by other equally respected medical organizations as culturally biased and susceptible to confirmation bias

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        9. Parental Support‏ @CircsUp Oct 13
          Replying to @Mindofown @brownburr42 and

          The science hasn’t changed regardless of the “tread lightly” approach of gov agencies. They still support the science and avoid the eggshells. UTI, STI, Cancer continue to be listed as benefits.

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