The video does not answer the key questions: Were there sanctions and did #PopeFrancis know about them? But it raises the questions: Were there sanctions, and if there were, why didn't Abp Vigano enforce them as nuncio?
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This suggests that Vigano May be the consummate diplomat if sanctions were imposed ineffectually but it doesn’t prove no sanctions were imposed.
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Thi whole thing should have been addressed with aggressive penalties in 2002. It doesn’t shake my faith, it kills my confidence in the catholic hierarchy
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Buckle up. There’s more to be revealed I suspect
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I hope so, but I’m more concerned with who the judges are.
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Journalists doing exactly what Pope Francis asked them to do: character assassination. Forget about trying to confirm the veracity of the allegations; just keep the narrative going. Pathetic!
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It is clear in canon law that it was up to Vigano to enforce any supposed sanctions.
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Pretty meaningless. He was nuncio - part of his job. Have you ever been to a K of C Supreme convention? They all play nice and make small talk with each other regardless of their "side of the aisle". One exception was the last time Bernard Law came - nobody would walk beside him.
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According to canon law, Vigano had to oversee any supposed "sanctions."
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oversee (as in keep tabs on and report)
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These egregious acts would require one to tell his/her superior of them, when the superior failed to act to go public immediately to protect children/ adults. To write an 11 pg letter, a min of 6 yrs after & go hide incommunicado says volumes about the archbishop & his intentions
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uh huh. We have a sworn affidavit. It must be investigated.
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and where is the archbishop to render testimony to the investigator? Absolutely it needs to be investigated. The investigation would begin with getting leads and additional facts from an accuser.
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This is silly. This is in DC. As Nuncio he is required to attend many things. No one is suggesting the Pope ordered McCarrick to be publicly rebuked.
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Vigano says of McCarrick, "very much loved by us all" in the video. Those are not the words of sanctions.
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No, they are the words of a diplomat. If I told you the number of times I talked to priests who had to praise someone they couldn't stand I'd be here all day.
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Not in public. And there's a difference between being a diplomat and being a phony. There's absolutely no need to say "loved by us all", if he was sanctioned. He could have said, "thank you" or "god bless". "Loved by us all" is complicity.
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All diplomats are phony, it's their main qualification for the job. "Oh don't we all love so and so" is heard at gala, award ceremony and pot luck supper.
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Nope. In a prepared & public speech you don't say "loved by us all" and pay honor to him, especially if the "sanctions" meant McCarrick was forbidden to be in public at all! That's not diplomacy. That's called hypocrisy and rule-breaking, assuming sanctions were in place.
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Yep, happens all the time. Your desire for that be be different doesn't change reality. I wish these guys were moral paragons all the time, I pray for it. But they aren't. If they were we wouldn't be having this discussion.
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Then by your own admission, Vigano implicates himself, by violating the sanctions, if there were any.
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