I mean, approach it from an EVE standpoint. Multiple people have told you there’s a potential fracture point in your alliance. Do you just ignore them and keep on with business as usual? Or do you address the weakness?
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It’s a good question, and according to some of the campaign pros in my timeline from my recent howling at the moon phase (which was like, last week lawl), none of this shit makes an impact on voter behavior at all. Twitter brainworms are irrelevant, in theory. I’m not certain...
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What I do think is that, based on what we’ve learned from Manufacturing Consent, flak operations may not impact voter behavior, but they might impact influencer behavior; if you know that talking shit about St. Bernard will flood your mentions with
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En réponse à @TheMittani @ChrisWarcraft
And in this case, when you see a big influencer making a whole sturm und drang about being on the receiving end of a flak barrage, that’s a signal to triple the amount of outgoing flak on target to deter by proxy other hostile outlets/influencers etc. It also seems to be useful -
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to boost a message from the twitter hellworld into the mainstream; pundits and the thin-skinned howling about
stuff report in outrage about how they took incoming on twitter, and all older voters on the TV hear is ‘Pete is a rat, people say!’ They don’t care about shitposts.1 réponse 0 Retweet 0 j'aime -
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That said, I’ve only recently turned my brain to examining real world political messaging and tactics, but if you take a dash of Manufacturing Consent and combine it with some Saul Alinsky, there’s value in online flak campaigns and apparently zero risk of harming votes.
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En réponse à @TheMittani @ChrisWarcraft
Anyway I’ve always respected the work you did politically so there’s a bunch of brain vomit on my current working theory of the purpose of online flak, and I’d prefer to see you not making yourself a target for barrage after barrage - even if that has utility as a hypo. deterrent
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Oh I don’t mind being the target if it takes some ire away from others and gets people thinking about the problem. I just don’t want people thinking there isn’t a problem, because if Bernie’s the candidate, I want him to have the best chance of succeeding as possible.
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And I think about 70% of the current activity is bot-driven, but the Bernie-Bro meme didn’t spring out of thin air from nowhere. The harm the bots do can really be lessened by making it obvious that number’s closer to 90-95%, but that requires some people to change.
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En réponse à @ChrisWarcraft
What if they’re not bots, and that’s just some MSNBC spew? Like if even 2% of the
@CHAPOTRAPHOUSE listeners engage in a flak campaign, that’s ~rip your mentions my dude~ - using the Russian bot theory to explain Bernie’s base having enthusiasm itself inspires more outrage-flak.1 réponse 0 Retweet 0 j'aime
I’ve had a lot of experience dealing with bots and sockpuppets from GG. They tend to follow two specific profiles - either high following with zero to low follower counts, or almost identical follower/followed (usually between 1.5-3k) and tons of hashtags.
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En réponse à @ChrisWarcraft @TheMittani
Both group’s timelines are filled with a single issue with no sign that they have any social presence outside of that issue.
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I don’t think that bots don’t exist, of course - basically every entity with an axe to grind is using them these days, that’s fair. Man, the GG days. That might mark one of the early starts of the Gibsonian Jackpot, thinking about it. Fuck.
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