Mate, you’re a good dude and I’ve respected you since the day you became the only NFL player with a principled stance on same sex marriage; but- Concentration Camps were designed as one way trips expressly for mechanized mass torture, and the extermination of millions of people.
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En réponse à @mattn2bu
That’s actually not correct. You’re thinking of death camps. The Nazis originally built their concentration camps to house undesirables, and then they turned them into death camps. If you don’t believe me, go ask a historian or two.
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En réponse à @ChrisWarcraft
A quick search reveals that the History Channel, Encyclopedia Britannica and the Smithsonian all refer to Auschwitz as a concentration camp. But even if you are right, that term immediate evokes images of death and torture. That is the comparison I am trying to avoid.
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En réponse à @mattn2bu
I hate to break it to you, but people are being tortured and are dying at the camps on the border. The Nazis didn’t start out with wholesale slaughter. “Never Again” doesn’t mean “this will never happen again,” it means “we have to fight to keep this from happening again.”
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En réponse à @ChrisWarcraft @mattn2bu
In fact, the Nazi concentration camps started out almost exactly the same as the ones we have now. Poor living conditions rife with disease and malnutrition, deliberately inflicted in order to further dehumanize the occupants. Things got worse from there.
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En réponse à @ChrisWarcraft
@Boinger Your logic here is what’s at fault, not your facts. Your argument looks liks this, mathematically- all things with common initial conditions will have identical outcomes. To disprove that you don’t need a historian, but a physicist. Vigilance is called for, not hyperbole2 réponses 0 Retweet 0 j'aime -
Two things: Chris has a degree in history, so his comparisons are probably apt. And this: https://www.newsweek.com/holocaust-genocide-experts-defend-ocascio-cortez-concentration-camp-1446911 …
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These signatories’ objection is to the dismissal of any similarities between this detention and the holocaust (the Museum’s position). I AGREE with that idea and w/ the petition. I am asserting that simply calling them concentration camps with zero qualification is inappropriate
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My man. If you’re not going to accept the fact that historians, including Jewish historians, including Jewish historians who *specifically* study Nazism, are saying “yes, these are concentration camps,” then we can’t have a conversation. I don’t know what else to say to you.
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Also- being Jewish is not a necessarily characteristic of rendering reasonable judgments. The implication is that Jewish historians would be admitting to similarities in spite of a personal predilection to the contrary. Such a bias would render their judgment unreliable anyway.
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Yeah, I’m just gonna block you now. I’ve been more than patient, but if the hill you want to die on is “I don’t believe that concentration camps are really concentration camps,” despite overwhelming evidence otherwise, then I’ve got better things to do with my life.
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En réponse à @ChrisWarcraft @Boinger
Ok. Well. That definitely did not unfold according to my expectations....
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