Ancient Egypt - Originally prospered due to adaptation to conditions along the Nile, stratified due to pharaohs accumulating resources (local tribe), collapsed. Short term gain led to long-term downfall.
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En réponse à @ChrisWarcraft @a_man_in_black
Rome - Originally prospered due to exploitation of position on the Tiber, stratified due to emperors/senators accumulating resources (local tribe), collapsed. Short term gain led to long-term downfall.
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En réponse à @ChrisWarcraft
lookin' for approximate years on this stratification and downfall
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En réponse à @a_man_in_black
2200-2150 BC, 1800-1700 BC, and 1100-1000 BC would be the main ones (also fitting my personal observation that most empires last around 300ish years or so, so we're in for a treat).
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En réponse à @ChrisWarcraft
the downfall of an empire that persisted in one form or another from 2200 BC to 1200 AD was caused by the accumulation of resources by the elites of Republican Rome. I see.
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En réponse à @a_man_in_black
"One form or another" is the key phrase there. Rome was not a homogeneous entity. There was Monarchical Rome, Republican Rome, pre-Imperial Rome, Imperial Rome, and post-Imperial Rome, all with distinct forms of government and, yes, all were brought down by short term concerns.
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En réponse à @ChrisWarcraft
who divided Roman history into those eras?
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En réponse à @a_man_in_black
I did, based on the historical record. I can link you the wikipedia timeline of major events if you want sources. (I also remember studying that time period in college, but say what you will about wikipedia, it's generally sourced well on widely known subjects)
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En réponse à @ChrisWarcraft
like, okay, but observing that historians divided history into chunks of X years for their convenience does not result in the idea that human history is inherently cyclical
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En réponse à @a_man_in_black
It's not a matter of dividing history into chunks, it's a matter of observing repeatable events. "X1 slew Y1 in order to gain Z1. Three hundred years later, X2 slew Y2 in order to gain Z2." The threads aren't the same, but the weave is very familiar.
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And, honestly, I would put "short term" at fifty years at most. We are not an intelligent species.
Le chargement semble prendre du temps.
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