after two catastrophic wars over nationalism and self-determination, after wwii germany was divided more or less arbitrarily
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En réponse à @a_man_in_black @ChrisWarcraft
"human nature" isn't some obvious and unchanging inherent quality that "dumb people" simply chose to ignore.
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En réponse à @a_man_in_black
Sure it is. The immediate tribe comes first (self, family). The near tribe comes next (neighbors/villagers). The ideological tribe comes after that, or sometimes before. After that? Fuck 'em, the mind can't hold that many people.
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En réponse à @ChrisWarcraft @a_man_in_black
This is a fairly well studied sociological phenomenon, and holds consistently true throughout history (exceptions do happen, of course).
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En réponse à @ChrisWarcraft
listen to yourself, though. sociology isn't even as old as the US! you are confusing the map - contemporary psychological, sociological, and political understanding - for the terrain - why other people do things
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En réponse à @a_man_in_black
Quantum theory is barely a century old, and yet we're using it to build computers. Venerability is not a defense, and sociology didn't need to be invented in order to describe human nature.
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En réponse à @ChrisWarcraft
it literally did. the idea of human nature was itself invented - and is constantly being reinvented
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En réponse à @a_man_in_black
Just because the words for a thing do not yet exist, does not negate that thing from existing.
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En réponse à @ChrisWarcraft
i would be interested in how you empirically measure the nature of things on this platonic plane
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En réponse à @a_man_in_black
The same way that just because the dinosaurs couldn't comprehend trigonometry didn't prevent a meteor from smashing into earth.
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As in the other reply, we do the best with what we have, we constantly question our assumptions, but we cannot ignore the fact that, really, we're not all that. Our planet is currently being rendered uninhabitable, thanks to us. What more do you need?
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En réponse à @ChrisWarcraft
if human nature is unchangeable and the present is the consequence of human nature is the present, why not just lay down and die?
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En réponse à @a_man_in_black @ChrisWarcraft
If I could just interject for a second, this has my vote.
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