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    Chase Madar‏Verified account @ChaseMadar 28 Nov 2016

    CIA torture is evil, but has killed fewer innocents than CIA drones. Why then do liberals condemn torture doctors but defend drone lawyers?

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      2. Andrew Mark Bennett‏ @acandidworld 28 Nov 2016
        Replying to @ChaseMadar @ChMadar

        the number killed isn't a valid measure for the relative morality. (drones can be used justly. torture cannot.)

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      3. Chase Madar‏Verified account @ChaseMadar 28 Nov 2016
        Replying to @acandidworld

        Even if drones can, hypothetically, be used justly, what if we decide that their use in Yemen, Somalia, Af-Pak is not just?

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      4. Chase Madar‏Verified account @ChaseMadar 28 Nov 2016
        Replying to @ChaseMadar @acandidworld

        My interest in this question is less philosophical (tho' that has value and interest) than practical, applied to today's wars.

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      5. Andrew Mark Bennett‏ @acandidworld 28 Nov 2016
        Replying to @ChaseMadar @ChMadar

        If I accept your hypo... Look at the torture *lawyers*. Look at lawyers tried at Nuremberg. Consider precise legal ethics rules.

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      2. Samuel Moyn‏Verified account @samuelmoyn 28 Nov 2016
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        Or torture v. endless war generally (w or w/out drones)http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/26/books/review/spiral-by-mark-danner.html …

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      1. Umut Özsu‏ @Umut_Ozsu 28 Nov 2016
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        Yes--speaks, among other things, to the "success" of the legal taboo on torture (and relative "cleanliness" of drones).

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      1. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 28 Nov 2016
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        Because Dems need their lifetime appointment appellate court payoff judges too?

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      1. Knox Peden‏ @KnoxPeden 28 Nov 2016
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        because liberals prefer ideological to logical consistency

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      2. Sean Paul Kelley‏ @seanpaulkelley 28 Nov 2016
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        1. @ChMadar Because while most liberals are certain their education will produce the right solution, they fail to realize sometimes life

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      3. Sean Paul Kelley‏ @seanpaulkelley 28 Nov 2016
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        2. @ChMadar gives me only bad our lousy choices and they want a good choice, not realizing they must make the best of the bad choices.

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      1. PaxMund‏ @PaxMund 28 Nov 2016
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        "We did some things that were contrary to our values. We drone-killed & -maimed some folks" —Yet to be spoken words of @BarackObama

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      1. Walter Mathilde‏ @AynRand_is_Dead 28 Nov 2016
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        Liberals aren't gonna condemn Democrat Obama 4 drones executing US citizens w/o trial = conservatives approval of GOP Bush torture.

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      1. CFrey‏ @cfrey01 28 Nov 2016
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        Because the Peace Movement's Obama coma is so restful...

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