.@ChMadar @nils_gilman If only one could define in any useful way whatever the hell "legitimacy" is supposed to be.
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my lay definition of legitimacy: "When you accept the sovereign's decisions/acts as valid, even if you disagree"
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A bit too subjective; making one's disagreement with the electoral college a basis to delegitimize a new President.
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popular government entails a lot of collective subjectivity.
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I agree, actually; I meant "you" plural!
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Schmitt was right about this: liberals have hard time making pol judgments that are overtly political, not legal.
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@ThomasHall17 change the system. That was the system going in to the election -
That is the correct inference.
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ANTI-DEMOCRATIC, NOT ILLEGITIMATE. THE CONSTITUTION IS AN ANTI-DEMOCRATIC DOCUMENT!
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Legitimacy is a value judgment, a political judgment; legality less so.
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DEMOCRATS ARE FINE WITH OUR RIGGED GAME WHEN THEY CAN USE IT TO STIFLE THIRD PARTIES, IGNORE BASE. DALEK LEVEL OF SYMPATHY: LOW!
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That's dangerous! Electoral College win is legitimate b/ that is the rule. But anger is appropriate as the fuel to force change.
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EC victory is legal bc it is the rule but it is not legitimate. Legitimacy a matter of moral/political,not legal, judgment.
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1/ When we consider results from the rules as illegitimate, then the Republic has fallen. I suggest you don't push us there.
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2/ More useful would be to arouse anger at the Electoral College to force reforms. Much c/b done if Americans got off their butts.
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Also, it was HRC's campaign that was excessively focused on a "battleground state" strategy and called American citizens deplorable
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I'm fine with changing the law, but US is a country with rule of law, and I want it respected in times of deep stress.
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except popular vote is function of electoral college. Impossible to know what turnout in non-swing states would be without it.
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oh golly. define 'legitimacy.' them's the rules for 250 or whatever.
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