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    Chase Madar‏Verified account @ChaseMadar Jun 3

    I hold no brief for Trump, GOD KNOWS. But what do all the wise and yappy pundits who worry that Trump is "getting played" by North Korea think is the price the U.S. will pay for a sub-par deal? How exactly would diplomacy materially harm everyday Americans?

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      2. Mehdi Hasan‏Verified account @mehdirhasan Jun 3
        Replying to @ChaseMadar

        Chase, why can’t you support diplomacy and also believe 1) trump is getting played and 2) trump is incapable of sticking to any deal? I don’t see the contradiction tbh.

        4 replies 0 retweets 14 likes
      3. Chase Madar‏Verified account @ChaseMadar Jun 3
        Replying to @mehdirhasan

        2) is a legit concern but as for 1), it seems the need of centrist and liberal pundits to bash Trump from any angle, preferably from the right, makes them unduly hostile to the very notion of a peacemaking deal with broad support up and down the Korean peninsula

        1 reply 0 retweets 14 likes
      4. Mehdi Hasan‏Verified account @mehdirhasan Jun 3
        Replying to @ChaseMadar

        You may well be right about right wing hawks but let’s be clear: bashing trump’s naivety, ignorance and narcissism is, or should be, a bipartisan, even non-ideological, endeavor.

        4 replies 0 retweets 6 likes
      5. Chase Madar‏Verified account @ChaseMadar Jun 3
        Replying to @mehdirhasan

        For sure! A man of the foulest character imaginable. But in this particular case, the stakes are different: even taking Trump's grotesque awfulness, what's so bad about even a so-so deal with DPRK, especially considering some of the horrific alternatives?

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      6. Zachary Siegel‏ @ZachWritesStuff Jun 3
        Replying to @ChaseMadar @mehdirhasan

        Too bad the peace movement across Korea gets very little press (like @WomenCrossDMZ). We instead hear from think tanks plugging defense middle systems (which few Koreans want).

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      2. Mark‏ @haircut_hippie Jun 3
        Replying to @ChaseMadar

        The only possible charitable explanation IMHO is the fear that Trump is going to egregiously fuck up the possibility for future diplomacy. Whether or not you worry about this, I think, depends on to what extent you think any other President would seriously talk to DPRK

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      3. Chase Madar‏Verified account @ChaseMadar Jun 3
        Replying to @haircut_hippie

        underrated reason to detest Trump: the way he's contaminating a few good ideas with his touch

        1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
      4. swamp witch‏ @reftpt Jun 4
        Replying to @ChaseMadar @haircut_hippie

        Not underrated at all if you follow @matthewstoller @DeanBaker13 @TimothyS

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      2. Petrel‏ @burevestnik3 Jun 3
        Replying to @ChaseMadar @coreypein

        Theory: it’s a PR stunt for both sides. Trump’s pushing this thing, note the desperation, to shield himself from the Mueller interview

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      3. #Puerto Rico‏ @rowyourbot Jun 3
        Replying to @burevestnik3 @ChaseMadar @coreypein

        Better than war. Honestly, if he can pull of some deal without war...it would be better even if he gets some political leverage from it. While what he is doing to the USA is frightening--the more he thinks diplomacy benefits him politically, the better.

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      4. Petrel‏ @burevestnik3 Jun 3
        Replying to @rowyourbot @ChaseMadar @coreypein

        If it's just a stunt, it won't do anything to prevent war. He could just as suddenly, once circumstances turn more dire, reach a conclusion that the only way to protect himself from Mueller is war. His word is meaningless, so is his 'diplomacy'.

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      5. #Puerto Rico‏ @rowyourbot Jun 3
        Replying to @burevestnik3 @ChaseMadar @coreypein

        Likely. That's the hazard. But he could do turn this situation into a catastrophe anyway. So I think the jury is still out. My hope is that N. Korea keeps playing along (which they are good at) & then the clock runs out & we get a sane president.

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      6. Petrel‏ @burevestnik3 Jun 3
        Replying to @rowyourbot @ChaseMadar @coreypein

        As long as we're not going with the gullible 'he deserves credit' narrative

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      7. #Puerto Rico‏ @rowyourbot Jun 3
        Replying to @burevestnik3 @ChaseMadar @coreypein

        I see no harm in pumping him up with the credit. Anything to make war less enticing is cool with me. If he gets as much mileage from this as he would from a war, we're all better off.

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      8. Petrel‏ @burevestnik3 Jun 3
        Replying to @rowyourbot @ChaseMadar @coreypein

        I just don't think it makes war any less enticing or possible

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      9. #Puerto Rico‏ @rowyourbot Jun 3
        Replying to @burevestnik3 @ChaseMadar @coreypein

        It might not--but it's worth a shot. Truly. This is the biggest danger hanging over our heads while he's president. Let him keep busy with his trade wars & his dream of solving the NK crisis.

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      1. Dindle‏ @dSquib Jun 3
        Replying to @ChaseMadar

        North Korea will trick Trump into letting NK nuke the US as part of the deal, and the US will have to say well, a deal's a deal

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      1. Professional WRAP Doer (gifts!)‏ @JJDemonic Jun 4
        Replying to @ChaseMadar

        Always skeptical of peace, never of war. When he bombed Syria they said he “became the president”.

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      1. #Puerto Rico‏ @rowyourbot Jun 3
        Replying to @ChaseMadar @3662brendon

        The only problem is if there is an overreaction to him getting played or if he does something to destabilize the diplomacy between S and N Korea. He is unpredictable--but right now, what he's doing is better by miles than what he might do.

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