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    1. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 6 Apr 2020

      For example, we had SARS spread in clinical setting due to insufficient attention to PPE doffing safety. So, yeah, if you are around an enormously high virus load all day, with sick people coughing on you etc. and you touch the outside of your mask, oops. It really is a hazard.

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    2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 6 Apr 2020

      So when well-meaning medical workers explain their own mask donning/doffing procedures to you, the regular person wearing maybe a cloth-mask (good for you!) or even a surgical mask or that N95 you had leftover and you're sanitizing/re-using, they are aiming at the wrong target

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    3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 6 Apr 2020

      What should you do? Well, follow the advice to the best of your ability but realize that you're not in a biosafety lab. First, masks don't replace distance. They add to it. Second, pay most attention to taking them off correctly and immediately washing your hands. Most important.

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    4. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 6 Apr 2020

      While shopping with distance, if you accidentally touch the outside of your mask, should you rush to take it off under biosafety level 3 rules? No. Mask still protects *others* from your potential spread. Yeah your hand can carry some virus there but remember viral load matters!

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    5. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 6 Apr 2020

      So medical folks aren't wrong but not targeting correctly. Stay away from others when you go out for essential activity, replace especially cloth masks often (few hours max), be careful especially taking them off, handle them carefully and wash hands immediately. That's it.

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    6. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 6 Apr 2020

      Also, I have been wearing transparent gloves out since February (my students can laugh about me explaining them in class!) and I sanitize over them all the time. Basically, I am still trying to be careful and treat them like my hands, but they can handle a lot of hand-sanitizer.

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    7. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 6 Apr 2020

      Yesterday, I learned that maybe even half of shoppers in regular grocery stores were wearing masks here in Chapel Hill. I last went out a week ago, and it wasn't even 10%! I am thrilled that it's taking off so quickly. Hope everywhere else, too! Meanwhile, stay home if you can!

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    8. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 6 Apr 2020

      Btw I've seen ZERO evidence that incorrect mask wearing *increases* risks to regular people compared to NO MASKS. The One study that the faux experts go on and on about looked at cloth masks compared TO surgical masks IN hospitals. Uh, duh. Surgical mask > cloth mask for a nurse.

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    9. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 6 Apr 2020

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted Pinboard

      Like this piece in @washingtonpost. It's full of weird speculation, too little actual science plus wrong conclusions. We've had some amazing journalism and also terrible performance by some health/science reporters who seem utterly unqualified.https://twitter.com/Pinboard/status/1247033976239218688 …

      zeynep tufekci added,

      Pinboard @Pinboard
      The Washington Post continues to give the most backhanded advice about mask wearing in public, a lifesaving, proven public health intervention that we need to adopt immediately. There is NO evidence masks can make you sicker. This is shameful. https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/03/13/if-you-feel-sick-are-worried-about-coronavirus-call-your-doctor-dont-rush-er/ … pic.twitter.com/4l92F5Yq5f
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    10. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 6 Apr 2020

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted David Marsh

      What would you think about a safety "expert" who said, without any evidence, that helmet/seat-belts make bikes/car less safe because of overconfidence and thus maybe don't use helmet/seat-belt? That's how wrong those faux experts are. Disqualifying error.https://twitter.com/DaveM604/status/1247177638944182275 …

      zeynep tufekci added,

      David Marsh @DavidMarshBC
      Replying to @zeynep
      But how do you measure false confidence in mask effectiveness, particularly in protecting the wearer? It seems all too likely some will think, "hey I've got a mask, therefore I can get groceries more often, sidewalk-swerve less, wash hands less etc."
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      Charlie King‏ @Charliewking 6 Apr 2020
      Replying to @zeynep

      Also can we get on the constant talk about lifespans on various surfaces not pointing out that these are based on lab trials and not like... your steering wheel, and that there have been very few (I’ve heard none) cases of transmission via surfaces? Bad info causes panic/harm.

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        2.  🏴☭ ZERO COVID ☭ 🏴‏ @xgoogoogoox 6 Apr 2020
          Replying to @Charliewking @zeynep

          But how can you really determine whether a patient contracted the virus via fomite transmission or otherwise? You can't, without a carefully controlled experiment. Lack of evidence for "x" =/= a case against "x"

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        3. Charlie King‏ @Charliewking 6 Apr 2020
          Replying to @xgoogoogoox @zeynep

          It’s a fair point. I would focus on facts about the type of transmission we do know spreads the virus and how to avoid that. Imagine a viewer that tunes in for a fomite-based 5 minutes for example and might wipe all surfaces but not wear a mask in public and think they’re fine.

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