I'm not talking GP, I'm looking bigger picture. What are you talking about? SI has Mist's Call, Scribe of Sorrows, and the Rekindler -- all become devalued due to Minimorph. Silence is not allowed to target champions (Purify) and if it is (Hush) it's limited to the round.
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Idk, hon. What I've been trying to say is that Mini, despite being burst & "uninteractive", doesn't prevent a healthy meta game. And trust me, Mini being fast would be much worse than at burst as it functions as "stat locker" & therefore create a new form of uninteractability
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1/2 Changing to Fast just means all the existing tool kits for countering or dodging become valid. If the problem is "those are too good' address that Vs removing interactivity.
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2/2 The problem is not that it's existence (as a single card) prevents a healthy meta. The problems: -It creates feel bad moments -If you dislike removal, enjoy combo centric decks there is zero recourse in over coming the card -Is a slippery slope of escalation in removal
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I genuinely agree with all of those points. But as I believe I've said and so has the LoR design team (multiple times), the speed of Mini is related to design, not balance. So you can ask for a mana increase but not for it to be fast. 1/2
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Vastauksena käyttäjille @JoStands4Jolly, @ChadVerrall ja
There is a reason why silences & freezes are burst or slow. They can't be healthy as a fast spell due to how those mechanics work in LoR therefore that wouldn't be the correct approach to tackle the issue of mini, which I believe is completely fine, from a balance standpoint. 2/2
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I know you've brought this up before, but IMO the silence aspect of Minimorph is to me a 'minor' aspect. All that does is allow it to counter spell shield. You could remove the silent aspect and that would be a good start for making it slightly weaker as well.
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Design-wise, this wouldn't be possible. It would create weird interactions, most unwanted. If we wanted a nerf in speed, it would have to be slow, unfortunately, which would probably kill the card. The same feel-bad problem would be applied in different scenarios if it were fast
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Yes, Slow would destroy it. Oh, and in my previous comment, removing Silent would also allow Barrier to remain, which does suck as well. I'd love a break down of what changing the speed to fast and removing silence would do. What weird interactions?
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Either way, I will have to go now. Have an appointment and y'know, probably won't respond until tomorrow. I liked our debate and I feel we are mostly on the same page. I hope I didn't sound rude at any point cause you have very good arguments. Cheers!
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No, this was fun! Thank you for the debate/discussion. I also have to run. Cheers!
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