Inadvertently, I’ve discovered that some of my followers believe there is no “Open Borders” movement. They believe no one has proposed Open Borders. I just don’t know what to make of this. Does the WSJ not exist?? Do search engines live in my imagination?? Anyone? A little help.
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Laundry list persuasion? Hadn’t heard that one. You may want to rethink the boundaries of your “persuasion” argument. My standard reply to someone making a falsifiable claim is to civilly falsify it. So we may be at an impasse here. Something is way off on this one. Be well.
As far as open borders goes, a good test is to ask people who claim the Wall is immoral - “How many immigrants should America accept each year?” If anyone gives you a concrete answer (people dodge it immediately), I’d be curious what they say.
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Typically they say “all/any” or pivot to another point altogether. Incoherent responses (both).
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That is a base question that no one will answer. Very simple...HOW MANY?
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I’m not sure it’s that great a question at all. The market should decide how many people can and do immigrate and emigrate. I don’t know what the number should be, and I suspect anyone who acts like they do is dishonest. All I know is that government bureaucrats shouldn’t decide.
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Is there any research that explores what the right number should be or how one could be arrived at?
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Yeah. There’s economics that shows for centuries that the allocation of resources by individual actors creates a spontaneous order that will choose the most efficient number, and that central planners do not and cannot do better. This applies to labor as surely as lumber.
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I am actually sympathetic to your thought here, but there has to be some sense of order to it...
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Did the best I could bro. Cheers
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You can also make a moral argument that illegal immigrants take legal immigrant spots, so why should people sitting on waiting lists in Africa, Europe, Asia, Australia suffer just because they don't share a land border with USA
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In a world with open borders, this question wouldn't make sense. America (or anywhere else) wouldn't "accept" any number of "immigrants". People would just go where they want.
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