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    Mike Cernovich‏Verified account @Cernovich Jan 7
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    A fun contrary take the the resurgent popularity of stoicism from @rivatez. Her critique reminds me of Buddhist belief that, "Desire is suffering," and to eliminate suffering, eliminate desire. It's almost certainly for the overall good of humanity that people strive.https://twitter.com/rivatez/status/1081902131555254272 …

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    Stoicism pacifies. Pacifcation ≠ Strength. Aurelius had already conquered the West before he regurgitated Epictetus. He wrote Meditations whilst he was trying to conquer and pacify the East. Most readers aren't Aurelius. They already lack ambition and self-efficacy.
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      2. Riva‏Verified account @rivatez Jan 7
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        further commentary on the stoicism issues -https://twitter.com/rivatez/status/1082076368219881473?s=21 …

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        If you’re interested in an incredible well-written critique of contemporary Stoicism, check out this piece by @William_Blake (one of my top 5 reads from last year) https://medium.com/1517/the-inadequacies-of-the-invincible-919e768f3106 …
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      3. Shuttlecock‏ @Shuttlecock7 Jan 7
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        On paragraph 7 and the author has already made it pretty apparent that they don't get stoicism. or at least no interpretation of it that I've ever seen.

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      1. Ben Meltzer ⏳‏ @meltzer_ben Jan 7
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        @DennisPrager amended that advice to retain desire but eschew expectation.

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      1. Ryan P. Flynn‏ @ryanpflynn Jan 7
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        You should check out Tyler Cowen’s, “Stubborn Atrachments.”

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      1.  🦉 Wisdomination  🦉‏ @Supreme_Owl_FTW Jan 7
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        It seems that Stoicism is currently popular in America to compensate for the collective inability or refusal to control emotions. As in all things, the dose makes the poison - and the medicine.

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      1. Aslan's Friend‏ @N9ZF Jan 7
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        Yea.... but did he like Avocado Toast?

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      1. Shuttlecock‏ @Shuttlecock7 Jan 7
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        yes but what are people striving after? that's the 64,000 dollar question.

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      1. 𝕷𝖊𝖌𝖎𝖔𝖓 ♔‏ @blakkbox Jan 7
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        Stoicism is not anti-ambition / desire. Merely a tool to use for when ambitions succeed or fail - to keep ones perspective evenly keeled.

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      1. onaturalia‏ @onaturalia Jan 7
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        Eliminate all fun. My fifth grade teacher taught me that.

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      1. Tesh‏ @TeshPunja Jan 7
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        Buddhist belief is absurd. There is no escape from suffering. The only coherent solution to suffering is the suffering Messiah in Christ. It is also self refuting, since in order for one to eliminate desire one has to desire it in the first place.

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      1. Solomon‏ @Solomon77491006 Jan 7
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        Hierarchy itself is the prime source of suffering, and is immutable. Human misery is written into Darwinian biology. There is no overall good. Just an endless game to pass on your genes instead of your neighbor's. Buddhists get it. Only alternative is denial of the will to live.

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      1. FBI ➡️TaxReturns ➡️???‏ @alienchemtrails Jan 7
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        She seems to undermine herself, and is actually critiquing discipline along with it. I don’t see how you advance “technology” without “self control” and actually self control does the opposite of making you a victim of circumstances.

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      1. Ekoumakoumakua2018‏ @Tiredofuserids Jan 7
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        E....yup

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      1. Mike Partyka‏ @MichaelJPartyka Jan 7
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        Reminds me of something I heard once about how Eastern religions, because they believe in cycles and reincarnation, never inspired progress as much as the Western religions, which subscribe to a beginning of history and an end of history.

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      1. jp DRSHXI 🇺🇸 America FirstMAGA Patriots 🇺🇸‏ @jimmieboy7000 Jan 7
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        I use to suffer, quite a bit from Desire .Not so much anymore .I grew out of it. I guess Loving someone or something is out ! Cause sooner or later it will make you suffer, and to be happy you need, someone to love. Something to do! and something to look forward to.

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