Right Also notice, Mike and I both killed it in law school Neither of us practice Lesson in there
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Interesting. But do you guys think law school has aided you well or benefitted you in your current endeavors?
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I’ve gotten value out of the credential, it gave me instant cred in these circles And the experience was disciplining That said the ROI is still negative - ESPECIALLY if you’ve already built a platform
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I’ve never thought of it that way. The way Cernovich put it (in terms of loss income + tuition) was really eye-opening.
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Law school is only worthwhile if you have a passion for practicing law.
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Law school regret here
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Get an engineering degree, good engineers are starting to make more than doctors and lawyers.
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The ROI of Engineering is still decent even with outrageous tuition. However, one should take
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Some of my peer group didn't finish. Their outcomes were not improved with half an engineering degree. They say student loans and no degree sucks... Everybody seems to think they'll finish and make at least the average starting salary when they're signing up for student loans.
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I can understand this, the curriculum can be very challenging. Many engineers make very average salaries, but good ones can make a ton of money.
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No, I mean the likely payout of people starting engineering school looks much worse than for people who finish engineering school. 25% to 50% will either drop out or switch to easy majors. Engineering only really looks good when you artificially shrink the sample set to grads...
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Almost any field will look good if you shrink the sample set enough. In giving career advise, we need to look at someone's current position. If people are freshmen picking majors and schools, we can't assume that they'll graduate with the planned degree on time etc.
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I did my law degree in the UK and my masters, it took 4 years and all in I spent just over £70k, including living expenses, admittedly I lived on a very very tight budget (in a rented house by myself) after graduation it has certainly been worth it. But not worth £305k ($400k)
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When the layers helped me sell my business they commented that being a lawyer was a mistake after seeing a 7th grade drop out do so well & retire at 47. That’s why I love Trump he believes in vocational training and blue-collar workers.

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Yup, if im not mistaken I think you were the one that convinced me not to go when everyone else was telling me to.
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Agreed. I’d say everyone should look at schooling from this angle. I’m currently trying to be certified in my profession, and when it’s all said and done it will have taken me 4+ years and probably $10-15k on top of what I paid for my college degree several years ago
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And if those properties fold?
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Daniel Webster's response when told was told the law was an overcrowded profession was that there was always room at the top. If you're good enough, go for it! I'm glad I did.
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