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Sohrab says too much of the intellectual power of the right has been dedicated on lawyers. French notes Sohrab also criticized him making cultural arguments. Sohrab says “we also need a state promoting religious freedom.”
Sohrab says the culture is hostile for everyday Christians to flourish. Elites can do ok. But not others.
Douthat: “There is a lot of space between ‘have Josh Hawley hold a hearing’ and “build a Christian Republic.”
Sohrab gets to the heart of it. “You would have people settle for Bernie and his judges.” Notes French opposes Trump. French concedes he opposes Trump.
French: “Legal battles are not won and lost in a single administration.” Notes abortion rates are below where they were at the post Roe peak.
Douthat says there is an argument that the record of Christian legal advance isn’t felt by people seeing declining religious practice.
Douthat: “Isn’t Trump populism just another version of what you’re criticizing in French”? Sohrab: “We aren’t of the world, but we are in the world. We should try to forestall the coliseum.”
“And that means not Bernie Sanders.” French:”Do you think Bernie Sanders would bring the Coliseum? He doesn’t even have a plan to deal with @senatemajldr.”
Sohrab says civility is a secondary value. French:: “what does this mean? What did you do in the great culture war of 2019? Well, I was an asshole on twitter.”
French: “We are to love our enemies. Is this love?” Sohrab: “Our constitution assumes God fearing people. What do we do when our enemies are not? Founders wouldn’t say the norms set in place protect porn or drag queen story hour.”
French notes he called for revival and Sohrab called it “an idol wish that men be moral.”
French: “The school prayer cases are garbage constitutional jurisprudence.” But some of the worst days for Liberty, especially for Catholics, was when public schools were essentially sectarian but anti-Catholic. (He’s right).
Sohrab: “The classical liberal position is defensive (if THEY come to power). But a movement can’t win without going on offense.” French: “You’ve said you would undermine viewpoint neutrality.” Sohrab: “Yes, I would.” French: “That’s not going on offense. It’s stupid.”
Douthat: Are there examples of using power to protect religious believers? French notes laws on campus free speech, religious liberty, etc.
Sohrab questions French’s courage, notes he was only JAG. French very rightfully is indignant.
French doesn’t think there is a Protestant-Catholic divide here. Catholics have had to appeal to liberal values often because of Protestant persecution. Sohrab says there is a difference. Historic Christianity more willing to use state.
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