While I appreciate the effort at compromise, I think there’s still an issue the community has never fully addressed, which is whether ..
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Replying to @graydon_pub @Carols10cents and
.. there ought to be some objective, binding mechanism of expressing & weighting dissent in a trade-off, other than argument & right-of-fork
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What would such a mechanism look like? What would its goals be?
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Oh, just the usual matters of governance. Representativeness & proportionality, accountability, etc. Usual mix of quantitative mechanisms?
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I would think the quantitative mechanisms would have to be weighted somehow by experience, etc, which gets us back to "core team decides"
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Surely there are many ways of summing and weighting governance questions, many producing very different outcomes than that.
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Point is at moment governance structure has very sharp line between in & out, where out is strictly advisory, no defined powers.
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I suspect that over time & with increasing scale, that might be worth reconsidering. Many projects grow formal vote or veto mechanisms.
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Yeah I'm imagining "50% of v casually-involved people say no = veto" which doesn't seem great either, but that may not be what you mean
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My point is as-written, Rust's consensus model grants a participant in process no defined say. Subteam-lead has final call.
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That's not all that's promised-- we claim to try to explore and consider all tradeoffs raised by anyone
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That's kinda my point: consideration is strictly advisory. There's no defined amount of objection that would equal a definite no.
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I'm not entirely sure we can do much better than "it depends" here. Every decision has a lot of context that isn't a priori legislatable
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