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    1. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 8 May 2021

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted Linsey Marr

      A @linseymarr thread from March 5, 2020. Look at how well it holds up. There are people across the world and across discipline working on all this, many before the pandemic, and in some countries they were listened to (early masking, cluster focus).https://twitter.com/linseymarr/status/1235641151249616896 …

      zeynep tufekci added,

      Linsey MarrVerified account @linseymarr
      Viruses in small droplets can float around in air for many hours, but they will likely be quite diluted unless you're in a small confined space. You could inhale these, but it's much less likely than if you're close to the person. /6
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      2 replies 62 retweets 319 likes
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    2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 8 May 2021

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted PM's Office of Japan

      I learned much of this first from a virologist and infectious disease specialist in Japan, Dr. Oshitani who had everything—aerosols, presymptomatic transmission, clusters—nailed by February of 2020. For purposes messaging, this is it, from March 2020:https://twitter.com/JPN_PMO/status/1244231002257383424 …

      zeynep tufekci added,

      PM's Office of JapanVerified account @JPN_PMO
      #COVID19 update: The experts on the novel #coronavirus stress the need to avoid three overlapping conditions. The “Three Cs” are: closed spaces, crowded places and close-contact settings. http://www.kantei.go.jp/jp/content/000061935.pdf … (please follow the guidelines for the public use of this poster.) pic.twitter.com/dON2CasDAE
      26 replies 281 retweets 906 likes
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    3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 8 May 2021

      The neat part is the update is because right after the article went live, CDC also updated its guidance. https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/07/opinion/coronavirus-airborne-transmission.html …pic.twitter.com/EkgEGSmLme

      8 replies 26 retweets 235 likes
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    4. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 8 May 2021

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted Roxanne Khamsi

      Also I want to highlight this by @rkhamsi, which is one of the earliest pieces I know of in English on all this. March 14, 2020. Look how well it holds up as well, especially in highlighting the need to move beyond the dichotomies quickly.https://twitter.com/rkhamsi/status/1238807298673434625 …

      zeynep tufekci added,

      Roxanne KhamsiVerified account @rkhamsi
      Is the virus that causes #COVID19 airborne? I spent the last week talking to experts who challenge public health officials’ black-and-white approach to talking about this: https://www.wired.com/story/they-say-coronavirus-isnt-airborne-but-its-definitely-borne-by-air/ …
      10 replies 42 retweets 261 likes
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    5. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 8 May 2021

      The central statement of the group is: “The transmission of the SARS-CoV-2 viruses takes place almost without exception indoors.” ht @BernieCornfeldhttps://www.thelocal.de/20210412/danger-lurks-inside-german-aerosol-experts-say-covid-restrictions-should-target-indoor-areas/ …

      12 replies 204 retweets 545 likes
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    6. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 9 May 2021

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted Ty Schalter

      This isn’t exactly true though, for this. Once aerosol transmission is correctly understood, it actually *unlocks* effective mitigations, especially since SARS-CoV-2 is overdispersed (either superspreadering OR low transmission). Aerosol recognition shows us its chokepoints.https://twitter.com/tyschalter/status/1391386430572797957 …

      zeynep tufekci added,

      Ty SchalterVerified account @tyschalter
      I remember being weirded out by this at the very beginning. Everything I was reading was like, "If it's droplets, we'll want to wipe down surfaces and avoid touching our faces. If it's aerosols...well, if it's aerosols we're SCREWED, so it CAN'T be that" https://twitter.com/zeynep/status/1390738628528201735 …
      8 replies 52 retweets 262 likes
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    7. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 9 May 2021

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted Joanna Teglund  😷  🪟 Don't get infected #ZeroCovid

      I just want to keep highlighting that there are very few confirmed outdoor transmission cases at all, and they are mostly in the context of prolonged *and* really close contact AND that the science of aerosol transmission makes it very clear why outdoors is so so much safer.https://twitter.com/JoannaTeglund/status/1390681712682749952 …

      zeynep tufekci added,

      Joanna Teglund  😷  🪟 Don't get infected #ZeroCovid @JoannaTeglund
      Replying to @IvaWest_SE @KBIvarsson and 3 others
      Outdoors isn't safe, but you can minimize the risk keeping distance and using masks. There are special masks for singers. https://twitter.com/JoannaTeglund/status/1390390342239858695 …
      15 replies 127 retweets 485 likes
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    8. Iris Pangburn‏ @Calamitatis 9 May 2021
      Replying to @zeynep

      I've been convinced for a long time now that the emphasis on wiping down surfaces or keeping 6' apart indoors was misplaced -- that ventilation is everything. Esp after non-transmission during George Floyd demos. But WHEN will maskless indoor singing be possible? Ever?

      2 replies 0 retweets 18 likes
    9. Fund Mass Transit‏ @Fundmasstransit 9 May 2021
      Replying to @Calamitatis @zeynep

      CDC really took their sweet ass time debunking the surface spread myth. It gave a certain kind of personality something to do (all that cleaning,) but scientifically, cleaning for Covid is largely theatrical.https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cnbc.com/amp/2021/04/06/the-cdc-should-have-updated-its-surface-cleaning-guidelines-much-sooner-dr-ashish-jha-says.html …

      1 reply 2 retweets 20 likes
    10. Flaming June‏ @junrussell 10 May 2021
      Replying to @Fundmasstransit @Calamitatis @zeynep

      It’s something people can see happening; it makes them feel better. Illogical, but true.

      1 reply 0 retweets 7 likes
      Iris Pangburn‏ @Calamitatis 10 May 2021
      Replying to @junrussell @Fundmasstransit @zeynep

      Yes, but on the other hand an enormous waste of work-time & resources. Consider the volume of disposable gloves, the plastic containers of lysol & so forth, the crippling requirements of daycare centers, etc. A more timely update could have limited that.

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        2. Flaming June‏ @junrussell 10 May 2021
          Replying to @Calamitatis @Fundmasstransit @zeynep

          I totally agree. I’m just speculating on reasons why it continues. People expect it. You have to counter their expectations with a bit more than a website update.

          1 reply 0 retweets 7 likes
        3. Brian Perry‏ @anonyguy 10 May 2021
          Replying to @junrussell @Calamitatis and

          All true. What makes me feel better these days is hearing an HVAC system cranking at full blast and seeing a low CO2 reading.

          1 reply 0 retweets 4 likes
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        2. Horny & Vaccinated ANTIFA Secretary‏ @MKMaybe 10 May 2021
          Replying to @Calamitatis @junrussell and

          I’ve been having anxiety for awhile about all the wipes going in the trash. I appreciate them so much because spray cleaners rip my sinuses up, but it sucks they’re made with polyester.

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        3. Flaming June‏ @junrussell 10 May 2021
          Replying to @MKMaybe @Calamitatis and

          You can relax a bit :)

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