What we are talking about is group-psychology here. Even if a large portion of the security forces, say 1/3rd are true sadists who care nothing about their country, if the other 2/3 defect they will have no other choice. The truth is though many dictatorships have popular support
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Replying to @CSturgis @NoKnownFuture and
According to Chenoweths study, non-violent revolts are twice as effective as their violent counter-parts. This would probably be greater in the states as their military power is so vast.
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I think that's a reasonable hypothesis, but I don't think the facts bear it out. You may be underestimating just how powerful an influence on human psychology social pressure is. These security forces have to face a community after they get off work, and accumulated condemnation
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Replying to @CSturgis @NoKnownFuture and
My understanding from what I heard of that study (I remember the author talking about it) is that non-violent protests allow for a wider constituency: people of all genders, ages and abilities.
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the proverbial talk softly and carry a big stick, as it were. Our first anti austerity protests in portugal were massive (over 1 mil in a single protest), effective - and peaceful. When police used force during a strike, resistance quickly eroded as the goverment quickly 1/
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Replying to @TiagoLemosPeixo @NoKnownFuture and
peddled the narrative of the violent protestor (with undercover cops shit stirring, I might add), dividing and conquering between those who were willing to take it a step further and those who understandably feared for their safety. Further peaceful protestes were toothless 2/2
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Replying to @TiagoLemosPeixo @NoKnownFuture and
My answer to that would be the Heather Hyer incident. Charlottesville was the largest fash rally in the country yet and antifa have been painted as extremely violent. But with the footage of a peaceful dissenter being mowed down it still hurt them immensely.
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Another thing you said worth commenting on is the use of agent provocateurs by police. Why would they do that if violence was so effective against them? Are they incompetent or misguided? I happen to believe they are neither violence is just easier for them to demonize and crush.
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