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Demographer, Prof. of Economics, Population Center Director, Florida State University.

Tallahassee, Florida, USA
Joined February 2012

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    Carl Schmertmann‏ @CSchmert May 8

    US #fertility is highest for very poor and very rich women. (TFR = total fertility rate = lifetime births per woman). ACS 2012-2016pic.twitter.com/eZKeJTN8f6

    12:21 PM - 8 May 2018
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      1. Carl Schmertmann‏ @CSchmert May 8

        Note the truncated vertical scale, however.

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      2. Laura Lindberg, PhD‏ @LauraLindberg2 May 8
        Replying to @CSchmert

        In NJ suburbs I refer to it as “hedge fund fours” — rich enough to have the luxury of 4 children (and a lot of help)

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      3. Carl Schmertmann‏ @CSchmert May 8
        Replying to @LauraLindberg2

        We (@thehauer and I) have an alternative estimate of TFR > 3 for those million-a-year-plus folks. We're still checking it carefully, though.

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      4. Laura Lindberg, PhD‏ @LauraLindberg2 May 8
        Replying to @CSchmert @thehauer

        Try it for zip code 07078

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      5. Carl Schmertmann‏ @CSchmert May 8
        Replying to @LauraLindberg2 @thehauer

        I'm sure you're right, but there's no way to get zip-level data for super-high income people in an ACS sample. 😢

        2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
      6. Laura Lindberg, PhD‏ @LauraLindberg2 May 8
        Replying to @CSchmert @thehauer

        I could just drive by and take photos of some families for you In front of their mailbox?

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      7. Stuart Gietel-Basten‏ @stuartbasten May 8
        Replying to @LauraLindberg2 @CSchmert @thehauer

        I thought we'd agreed you'd stop doing that, Laura. 😊

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      8. Carl Schmertmann‏ @CSchmert May 8
        Replying to @stuartbasten @LauraLindberg2 @thehauer

        Here's a (Bayesian) probabilistic estimate of TFR for zip code 07078, based on its 2010 census age pyramid. You're right that it looks high. We estimate a 50% chance that it's above 3.47.pic.twitter.com/vwB98LbyDs

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      2. Maseko Tafadzwa‏ @TafadzwaMaseko May 8
        Replying to @CSchmert

        reasons???????

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      3. Carl Schmertmann‏ @CSchmert May 8
        Replying to @TafadzwaMaseko

        The cost of children varies with income. Women in "middle" income households are most likely to be in the labor market, so they face higher $ costs for each hour spent on child-raising.

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      4. Carl Schmertmann‏ @CSchmert May 8
        Replying to @CSchmert @TafadzwaMaseko

        ... and really rich women can hire help

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      2. Sevrin Waights‏ @waights May 9
        Replying to @CSchmert @UrbanDemog

        Is that household income in the pre-birth year? Otherwise income would naturally fall with births due to leave taking. (The very high incomes obvs have something different going on))

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      3. Carl Schmertmann‏ @CSchmert May 9
        Replying to @waights @UrbanDemog

        Excellent point. ACS Qs refer to births and total HH income over the 12 months before the survey date. On avg births would have happened 6 months into the period for which income is reported. In short: you're right that recent births might cause lower recent incomes.

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      4. Carl Schmertmann‏ @CSchmert May 9
        Replying to @CSchmert @waights @UrbanDemog

        ... but we see an even stronger U-shaped pattern in other estimates that are based on last-year income and births over the last five years. So it's unlikely that the interaction between recent births and recent incomes is the main story for the left side of the graph.

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      5. Sevrin Waights‏ @waights May 9
        Replying to @CSchmert @UrbanDemog

        Ah now I see that you are an economist so of course you thought of reverse causality ;)

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      2. AJ Fish‏ @aljfish May 10
        Replying to @CSchmert

        Wow I've been making this case to friends and family. What is the source - is there a link? Thx.

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      3. Carl Schmertmann‏ @CSchmert May 10
        Replying to @aljfish

        This is from the American Community Survey, a US Census product. This is accumulated data from monthly samples over 2012-2016, and uses the Qs on HH income and whether/not women had a birth in the past year. Raw data is at https://usa.ipums.org/usa/ 

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      4. Katherine Don‏ @KatDon1 May 10
        Replying to @CSchmert @aljfish

        Was this American Community Survey data recently released? Is there a link to this graph at their website or did you create the graph from their data?

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      5. Carl Schmertmann‏ @CSchmert May 11
        Replying to @KatDon1 @aljfish

        I created it from ACS microdata, available from @ipums -- at https://usa.ipums.org/usa/  . (Microdata = anonymized sample of individual ACS responses).

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      6. IPUMS‏ @ipums May 11
        Replying to @CSchmert @KatDon1 @aljfish

        Another project that was #poweredbyIPUMS! Thanks for the shout-out, @CSchmert; @KatDon1, have a look around at http://ipums.org .

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