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    1. Allyn Condon OLY‏ @Allyncondon Feb 10
      Replying to @KirstenSjovoll @Imonlyslightly and

      I am amazed that the medical profession is up in arms over this conviction and no one even knows he mistakes. It is as likely that they were really bad as they were minor if no one knows in fact based on the conviction it is more likely they were serious errors.

      4 replies 1 retweet 5 likes
    2. Grumpy Old Doc‏ @GrumpyOldDoc Feb 10
      Replying to @Allyncondon @KirstenSjovoll and

      That's a false assumption Allyn, some of the errors are already in the public domain, and are known to be systemic - delay in acting on blood results when lab system was known to be down, to name just one.

      1 reply 1 retweet 5 likes
    3. Dr Sara Ryan‏ @sarasiobhan Feb 10
      Replying to @GrumpyOldDoc @Allyncondon and

      Grumpy, we don't know the facts. We don't know if the lab system was down for 10 minutes or five hours... Why not accept we just don't know?

      2 replies 1 retweet 1 like
    4. Grumpy Old Doc‏ @GrumpyOldDoc Feb 10
      Replying to @sarasiobhan @Allyncondon and

      We know a lot of facts The appeal judge outlined the prosecution case below It reads like a nightmare - she is blamed for "not seeking consultant advice at any stage" then in 14 she clearly did and the consultant failed to act on results she gave him http://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWHC/Admin/2018/76.html …

      1 reply 1 retweet 4 likes
    5. John Clarke‏ @C7RKY Feb 10
      Replying to @GrumpyOldDoc @sarasiobhan and

      Judge hints at his frustration: "There was a limit to how far these issues could be explored in the trial but there may be some force in the comment that yours was a responsibility that was shared with others" Esp after BG's: "The consultant had overall responsibility for Jack"

      3 replies 0 retweets 3 likes
    6. John Clarke‏ @C7RKY Feb 10
      Replying to @C7RKY @GrumpyOldDoc and

      Key word here for me being 'shared'. Suggesting her culpability was still proven to the satisfaction of the judge/jury, but that others perhaps ought to have also faced legal scrutiny. The consultant being first in line.

      1 reply 1 retweet 5 likes
    7. Jamie‏ @DrJimboNHS Feb 11
      Replying to @C7RKY @GrumpyOldDoc and

      Well therein lies an intrinsic problem with the GNM legislation. Shared clinically does not just mean joint equal responsibility, it means unequal responsibility proportionate to competencies and levels of responsibilities defined in trainee consultant relationships...

      1 reply 0 retweets 7 likes
    8. Jamie‏ @DrJimboNHS Feb 11
      Replying to @DrJimboNHS @C7RKY and

      ...& it's wrong to suggest that the ability to deliver your duty of care isn't diluted by the number of patients under your care, & the number you are or aren't sharing that workload with. Could a GP half their appt time again to 5mins & fulfil duty of care consistently?

      2 replies 0 retweets 5 likes
    9. John Clarke‏ @C7RKY Feb 11
      Replying to @DrJimboNHS @GrumpyOldDoc and

      I'm not sure I share your concern re the law personally, because it should individually address each person's respective guilt and claims to have done so in this case. I agree there are concerns about the consultant and the resourcing though. I'd like to see it all addressed.

      2 replies 2 retweets 4 likes
    10. Anne Murphy‏ @DrAnneMurphy Feb 11
      Replying to @C7RKY @DrJimboNHS and

      But tricky though. It was the same judge as in the #DavidSellu case. The law about how to direct a GNM jury was unclear until his appeal.

      1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
      John Clarke‏ @C7RKY Feb 11
      Replying to @DrAnneMurphy @DrJimboNHS and

      I can see the obvious concern, but depending on timing (?), could it not be argued that he was better placed than anyone to direct the next jury? Timing aside, the High Court ruling certainly says he "correctly directed the jury" re the "truly exceptionally bad" part.

      2:29 AM - 11 Feb 2018
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        2. Anne Murphy‏ @DrAnneMurphy Feb 11
          Replying to @C7RKY @DrJimboNHS and

          Anne Murphy Retweeted Anne Murphy

          https://twitter.com/DrAnneMurphy/status/962477079571914752?ref_src=twcamp%5Eshare%7Ctwsrc%5Em5%7Ctwgr%5Eemail%7Ctwcon%5E7046%7Ctwterm%5E3 …

          Anne Murphy added,

          Anne Murphy @DrAnneMurphy
          Replying to @LostTransport @RogueRad and 6 others
          It’s interesting that Dr BG was convicted in 2015 by a jury under J Nicol. #DavidSellu was originally convicted under the same judge in 2013. And a judge’s role in directing a GNM jury was greatly clarified by Sellu’s appeal, which turned on that point. But not till 2016...
          1 reply 2 retweets 0 likes
        3. John Clarke‏ @C7RKY Feb 11
          Replying to @DrAnneMurphy @DrJimboNHS and

          Well that covers the timing point. Thank you. Interesting to see Dan's response to you that Sellu was raised in one of the appeals too.

          0 replies 0 retweets 1 like
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