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    1. David Drew‏ @NHSwhistleblowr Feb 10
      Replying to @katemasters67 @DrJimboNHS and

      We don't know what they were. May have been mostly trivial errors obvious only on later scrutiny. Likely to be errors of omission rather than commission in stressed system. You're asking others to speculate Kate.

      3 replies 0 retweets 4 likes
    2. John Clarke‏ @C7RKY Feb 10
      Replying to @NHSwhistleblowr @katemasters67 and

      How is suggesting they 'may have been mostly trivial errors obvious only on later scrutiny', or that they were 'likely errors of omission rather than commission in stressed system' any less speculative, David? And that's not just aimed at you, btw.

      3 replies 0 retweets 3 likes
    3. Dr Sara Ryan‏ @sarasiobhan Feb 10
      Replying to @C7RKY @NHSwhistleblowr and

      Exactly. These threads are extraordinary. Weaving in and out of speculation, exaggeration, arrogance and accusation. We don't know.

      1 reply 4 retweets 10 likes
    4. David Drew‏ @NHSwhistleblowr Feb 10
      Replying to @sarasiobhan @C7RKY and

      Look back to the beginning. Speculative question to clinicians about 21 errors we know no details of. I only answered to point that out.

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    5. Kirsten Sjovoll‏ @KirstenSjovoll Feb 10
      Replying to @NHSwhistleblowr @sarasiobhan and

      It is speculative. Im amazed in all of this debate about the correctness of decision to convict and strike off nobody has actually known what the 21 errors were and how serious - individually or cumulatively- they are. Aren’t they listed somewhere?Some (not all) are in judgments

      3 replies 3 retweets 8 likes
    6. Allyn Condon OLY‏ @Allyncondon Feb 10
      Replying to @KirstenSjovoll @Imonlyslightly and

      I am amazed that the medical profession is up in arms over this conviction and no one even knows he mistakes. It is as likely that they were really bad as they were minor if no one knows in fact based on the conviction it is more likely they were serious errors.

      4 replies 1 retweet 5 likes
    7. Grumpy Old Doc‏ @GrumpyOldDoc Feb 10
      Replying to @Allyncondon @KirstenSjovoll and

      That's a false assumption Allyn, some of the errors are already in the public domain, and are known to be systemic - delay in acting on blood results when lab system was known to be down, to name just one.

      1 reply 1 retweet 5 likes
    8. Dr Sara Ryan‏ @sarasiobhan Feb 10
      Replying to @GrumpyOldDoc @Allyncondon and

      Grumpy, we don't know the facts. We don't know if the lab system was down for 10 minutes or five hours... Why not accept we just don't know?

      2 replies 1 retweet 1 like
    9. Grumpy Old Doc‏ @GrumpyOldDoc Feb 10
      Replying to @sarasiobhan @Allyncondon and

      We know a lot of facts The appeal judge outlined the prosecution case below It reads like a nightmare - she is blamed for "not seeking consultant advice at any stage" then in 14 she clearly did and the consultant failed to act on results she gave him http://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWHC/Admin/2018/76.html …

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    10. John Clarke‏ @C7RKY Feb 10
      Replying to @GrumpyOldDoc @sarasiobhan and

      Judge hints at his frustration: "There was a limit to how far these issues could be explored in the trial but there may be some force in the comment that yours was a responsibility that was shared with others" Esp after BG's: "The consultant had overall responsibility for Jack"

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      John Clarke‏ @C7RKY Feb 10
      Replying to @C7RKY @GrumpyOldDoc and

      Key word here for me being 'shared'. Suggesting her culpability was still proven to the satisfaction of the judge/jury, but that others perhaps ought to have also faced legal scrutiny. The consultant being first in line.

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        2. Jamie‏ @DrJimboNHS Feb 11
          Replying to @C7RKY @GrumpyOldDoc and

          Well therein lies an intrinsic problem with the GNM legislation. Shared clinically does not just mean joint equal responsibility, it means unequal responsibility proportionate to competencies and levels of responsibilities defined in trainee consultant relationships...

          1 reply 0 retweets 7 likes
        3. Jamie‏ @DrJimboNHS Feb 11
          Replying to @DrJimboNHS @C7RKY and

          ...& it's wrong to suggest that the ability to deliver your duty of care isn't diluted by the number of patients under your care, & the number you are or aren't sharing that workload with. Could a GP half their appt time again to 5mins & fulfil duty of care consistently?

          2 replies 0 retweets 5 likes
        4. John Clarke‏ @C7RKY Feb 11
          Replying to @DrJimboNHS @GrumpyOldDoc and

          I'm not sure I share your concern re the law personally, because it should individually address each person's respective guilt and claims to have done so in this case. I agree there are concerns about the consultant and the resourcing though. I'd like to see it all addressed.

          2 replies 2 retweets 4 likes
        5. Jamie‏ @DrJimboNHS Feb 11
          Replying to @C7RKY @GrumpyOldDoc and

          I'm afraid I cannot agree. You cannot have a universal duty of care when you don't hold all of the competencies or availabilities to deliver it. This is not a test at the level of gross vs not gross. This is a test at the level of how capable a duty could be delivered...

          1 reply 1 retweet 3 likes
        6. Jamie‏ @DrJimboNHS Feb 11
          Replying to @DrJimboNHS @C7RKY and

          ...at the moment the assessment is merely one of principle. In principle does that duty exist. The pragmatic reality is that in these overstretched over burdened environments, it is deeply compromised before you even step in there...

          1 reply 1 retweet 4 likes
        7. Jamie‏ @DrJimboNHS Feb 11
          Replying to @DrJimboNHS @C7RKY and

          ...the assessment of gross, and therefore the definition of the crime itself is also left to the jurors, which seems wrong. But the idea that a balanced assessment of individual culpability is properly explored against the systemic culpability is wrong...

          1 reply 1 retweet 2 likes
        8. Jamie‏ @DrJimboNHS Feb 11
          Replying to @DrJimboNHS @C7RKY and

          ...to truly know what the system contribution was, and therefore what the individual culpability is, requires a very thorough judicial exploration of the system & at the very least an independent one. Anything less allows the corporation & hierarchy to scapegoat the individual...

          1 reply 2 retweets 3 likes
        9. Jamie‏ @DrJimboNHS Feb 11
          Replying to @DrJimboNHS @C7RKY and

          ...and it is quite impossible and totally unrealistic to expect a defence team to be able to run that investigation through themselves, compelling organisational openness.

          1 reply 1 retweet 2 likes
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