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Of course views all mine. All without prejudice. Just a regular chap after all. Oh...and RT's may equally imply ridicule as endorsement.

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    John Clarke‏ @C7RKY Feb 9

    I don't think the medical world has the slightest grasp of how disturbing their behaviour has been for patients to observe recently. Whether you like it or not, without a transcript to support your indignant objections, it can appear very self-serving to us - and that's scary.

    4:16 AM - 9 Feb 2018
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      1. New conversation
      2. Jamie‏ @DrJimboNHS Feb 9
        Replying to @C7RKY

        OTOH many doctors just do not think the job is worth the risk & stress any more, incapable of appropriately meeting patient demands, organisational & regulatory pressures in understaffed unsafe environments. If you trap an animal in a corner, it will behave like a trapped animal.

        2 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
      3. John Clarke‏ @C7RKY Feb 9
        Replying to @DrJimboNHS

        That's not a situation any of us want, but you should also consider how patients have felt for many years. These court cases are the result of our own 'trapped animal' feeling, when we are met with a wall of lies/silence. This will only rumble on if both sides aren't considered.

        2 replies 1 retweet 8 likes
      4. Fiona Anderson‏ @feanderson7 Feb 9
        Replying to @C7RKY @DrJimboNHS

        Having been on the receiving end of a medical error with consequences it doesn't revolve around recompense but rather recognition, acknowledgment, accountability, responsibility & apology. However accepting liability & apologising would appear losing face in front of colleagues.

        2 replies 2 retweets 1 like
      5. John Clarke‏ @C7RKY Feb 9
        Replying to @feanderson7 @DrJimboNHS

        I entirely agree. The money means little to most. I walked away from a clinical negligence case once I realised that was all it was about and that they could keep me out of court with a cheque. I wanted the truth, not money. Sorry would've been nice too.

        4 replies 0 retweets 1 like
      6. Fiona Anderson‏ @feanderson7 Feb 9
        Replying to @C7RKY @DrJimboNHS

        Lodging formal complaints are protracted, arduous & time-consuming. It requires having a strong sense of conviction to see through to the end. Discriminatory practices i.e. comments are often not recorded in the files so makes it hard to prove that discrimination has taken place.

        1 reply 1 retweet 0 likes
      7. John Clarke‏ @C7RKY Feb 10
        Replying to @feanderson7 @DrJimboNHS

        John Clarke Retweeted John Clarke

        Yes, that's the general experience. Foot dragging & obfuscation until time runs out or people walk away. I faced a more unusual problem - my complaint was over in 9 days - w/o even complaining! They *really* didn't want me hanging around asking questions.https://twitter.com/c7rky/status/949004734144372736 …

        John Clarke added,

        John Clarke @C7RKY
        Replying to @C7RKY @katemasters67 and 21 others
        2/2 16/7 1st email to trust 19/7 Suggested questions drafted by trust, selectively assumed from my emails 19/7 I reject draft & explicitly say complaint is pending (see email excerpt below) 20/7 Rejection ignored, draft restated 25/7 Ghost complaint opened, closed & rejected ??? pic.twitter.com/R7fjeAOhu4
        2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
      8. Fiona Anderson‏ @feanderson7 Feb 10
        Replying to @C7RKY @DrJimboNHS

        Although there were no comments in the file when I recounted the consultation they remembered what had been said to them & after that the consultant tried to make sure that I didn't see interns again. The consultant didn't want their patients to be treated in such a manner again.

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      9. John Clarke‏ @C7RKY Feb 10
        Replying to @feanderson7 @DrJimboNHS

        John Clarke Retweeted John Clarke

        You're not alone in that experience. The integrity of medical records following a complaint is a real problem. It's one of the things we'll need to fix before things will calm down again, imho.https://twitter.com/c7rky/status/941470674035625984 …

        John Clarke added,

        John Clarke @C7RKY
        Replying to @Mothers_Inst_UK @DrAnneMurphy and 3 others
        No, you won't like it. 1 Meet complainant, find out what they know/have 2 Consult with lawyers to determine best defence, using that knowledge gained 3 Consult medical records to weed out anything which contradicts the recommended defence & seed in anything required to support it
        0 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
      10. End of conversation
      1. New conversation
      2. Nick Argall‏ @nickargall Feb 9
        Replying to @C7RKY

        But there is the findings of the appeal, which includes a statement of the facts at the original trial. And the basis for the judgement is set out. So we have been told how the court arrived at the decision reached.

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      3. John Clarke‏ @C7RKY Feb 9
        Replying to @nickargall

        John Clarke Retweeted John Clarke

        Now I'm getting that deja vu feeling? Or as the French say; Bugger me, I'd swear I've seen that before somewhere. 😉https://twitter.com/c7rky/status/957836400174555136 …

        John Clarke added,

        John Clarke @C7RKY
        Replying to @nickargall @doctorcaldwell and 40 others
        It includes the General Medical Council's lawyers' selective summary of the issues covered in the original trial. It offers valuable clues, but it is by no means the full picture.
        1 reply 0 retweets 4 likes
      4. Nick Argall‏ @nickargall Feb 9
        Replying to @C7RKY

        I guess I don’t understand why you place so much emphasis on the transcript. If we’ve been told what was considered in making the decision, then surely we know what was considered in making the decision.

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      5. John Clarke‏ @C7RKY Feb 9
        Replying to @nickargall

        John Clarke Retweeted John Clarke

        I get that. For me, the only thing you can be certain of when dealing with lawyers, is that you won't be getting the full picture. Only the bits they want you to see. I'm not prejudging what the transcript may say, but I like source data. Call me picky :)https://twitter.com/c7rky/status/950691530037252097 …

        John Clarke added,

        John Clarke @C7RKY
        Think I might print these 4 points out and give them to my son as general advice for life. I'm sure he'll get much worse advice off me over the years. pic.twitter.com/1E5U3icpKq
        1 reply 0 retweets 4 likes
      6. Nick Argall‏ @nickargall Feb 9
        Replying to @C7RKY

        Fair. But when a topic is completely missing, and a well understood phenomenon is described as “not explained”, I feel confident in assessing that the topic wasn’t explained.

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      7. John Clarke‏ @C7RKY Feb 9
        Replying to @nickargall

        Again, I can understand why you see it that way, particularly given your own speciality. Having spent several years needing to analyse misleading language from lawyers & clinicians tho, I tend to want to understand the basis for any statement now. (See number 2 on image above) :)

        1 reply 1 retweet 2 likes
      8. Nick Argall‏ @nickargall Feb 9
        Replying to @C7RKY

        Thanks for helping me understand. And yeah, years of practice telling engineers “No, you haven’t investigated this problem adequately” does predispose me towards the view that an investigation was inadequate.

        0 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
      9. End of conversation
      1. New conversation
      2. TheLastNurse‏ @burntoutRGN Feb 9
        Replying to @C7RKY

        Nurses do. Am sure that doctors do too. I just want out. Sick trying to keep the system safe.

        1 reply 1 retweet 1 like
      3. John Clarke‏ @C7RKY Feb 10
        Replying to @burntoutRGN

        It's a dark phase for everyone, this. I'm sorry you've been put in a position where you're made to feel that way. Let's hope all this uproar leads to a more positive situation for all. x

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      4. TheLastNurse‏ @burntoutRGN Feb 12
        Replying to @C7RKY

        No chance in Ireland I am afraid. As we have no whistleblower protection in Ireland, too much is brushed under the carpet

        1 reply 1 retweet 0 likes
      5. John Clarke‏ @C7RKY Feb 12
        Replying to @burntoutRGN

        John Clarke Retweeted John Clarke

        I'm not sure we've got any more protection for whistleblowers here either tbh. Not in reality. Doctors have shown their ability to use numbers to their advantage of late though. The Jack Adcock case being just 1 example. It has merit if properly directed >https://twitter.com/c7rky/status/957356100633923585 …

        John Clarke added,

        John Clarke @C7RKY
        Replying to @StevenShorrock
        Absolutely understand. I knew all those cases, although hadn't picked up on the interesting fact that the doctors chose to report concerns as a group in Belfast. Thinking/dancing. Always said there was power in numbers - can't sack them all. On this theme: https://twitter.com/C7RKY/status/948529655597948930 …
        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      6. TheLastNurse‏ @burntoutRGN Feb 12
        Replying to @C7RKY

        Doctors have yet the nurse was hung long ago. Am an avid reader about systems failure. Reading about hindsight last night in dekker. By the time jack died, the analysis occurs with full knowledge which wasn’t available simultaneously for the dr.

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      7. John Clarke‏ @C7RKY Feb 14
        Replying to @burntoutRGN

        John Clarke Retweeted John Clarke

        Yes, the timing of this uproar & the fact that nurses were barely a footnote in the commentary of most doctors, hasn't gone unnoticed. Systems failures should be accounted for - I hope they were. There's a lot we don't know. This was my take on it (thread)https://twitter.com/C7RKY/status/962954985704214528 …

        John Clarke added,

        John Clarke @C7RKY
        Replying to @C7RKY @DrJimboNHS and 43 others
        We don’t even know the full details of her errors. 21 or otherwise. And we certainly don’t know enough at this stage to assert that the law needs changing, imho. END Over to you... :)
        0 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
      8. End of conversation

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