OTOH many doctors just do not think the job is worth the risk & stress any more, incapable of appropriately meeting patient demands, organisational & regulatory pressures in understaffed unsafe environments. If you trap an animal in a corner, it will behave like a trapped animal.
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That's not a situation any of us want, but you should also consider how patients have felt for many years. These court cases are the result of our own 'trapped animal' feeling, when we are met with a wall of lies/silence. This will only rumble on if both sides aren't considered.
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Having been on the receiving end of a medical error with consequences it doesn't revolve around recompense but rather recognition, acknowledgment, accountability, responsibility & apology. However accepting liability & apologising would appear losing face in front of colleagues.
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I entirely agree. The money means little to most. I walked away from a clinical negligence case once I realised that was all it was about and that they could keep me out of court with a cheque. I wanted the truth, not money. Sorry would've been nice too.
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Lodging formal complaints are protracted, arduous & time-consuming. It requires having a strong sense of conviction to see through to the end. Discriminatory practices i.e. comments are often not recorded in the files so makes it hard to prove that discrimination has taken place.
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Yes, that's the general experience. Foot dragging & obfuscation until time runs out or people walk away. I faced a more unusual problem - my complaint was over in 9 days - w/o even complaining! They *really* didn't want me hanging around asking questions.https://twitter.com/c7rky/status/949004734144372736 …
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Although there were no comments in the file when I recounted the consultation they remembered what had been said to them & after that the consultant tried to make sure that I didn't see interns again. The consultant didn't want their patients to be treated in such a manner again.
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You're not alone in that experience. The integrity of medical records following a complaint is a real problem. It's one of the things we'll need to fix before things will calm down again, imho.https://twitter.com/c7rky/status/941470674035625984 …
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But there is the findings of the appeal, which includes a statement of the facts at the original trial. And the basis for the judgement is set out. So we have been told how the court arrived at the decision reached.
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Now I'm getting that deja vu feeling? Or as the French say; Bugger me, I'd swear I've seen that before somewhere.
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I guess I don’t understand why you place so much emphasis on the transcript. If we’ve been told what was considered in making the decision, then surely we know what was considered in making the decision.
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I get that. For me, the only thing you can be certain of when dealing with lawyers, is that you won't be getting the full picture. Only the bits they want you to see. I'm not prejudging what the transcript may say, but I like source data. Call me picky :)https://twitter.com/c7rky/status/950691530037252097 …
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Fair. But when a topic is completely missing, and a well understood phenomenon is described as “not explained”, I feel confident in assessing that the topic wasn’t explained.
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Again, I can understand why you see it that way, particularly given your own speciality. Having spent several years needing to analyse misleading language from lawyers & clinicians tho, I tend to want to understand the basis for any statement now. (See number 2 on image above) :)
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Thanks for helping me understand. And yeah, years of practice telling engineers “No, you haven’t investigated this problem adequately” does predispose me towards the view that an investigation was inadequate.
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Nurses do. Am sure that doctors do too. I just want out. Sick trying to keep the system safe.
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It's a dark phase for everyone, this. I'm sorry you've been put in a position where you're made to feel that way. Let's hope all this uproar leads to a more positive situation for all. x
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No chance in Ireland I am afraid. As we have no whistleblower protection in Ireland, too much is brushed under the carpet
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I'm not sure we've got any more protection for whistleblowers here either tbh. Not in reality. Doctors have shown their ability to use numbers to their advantage of late though. The Jack Adcock case being just 1 example. It has merit if properly directed >https://twitter.com/c7rky/status/957356100633923585 …
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Doctors have yet the nurse was hung long ago. Am an avid reader about systems failure. Reading about hindsight last night in dekker. By the time jack died, the analysis occurs with full knowledge which wasn’t available simultaneously for the dr.
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Yes, the timing of this uproar & the fact that nurses were barely a footnote in the commentary of most doctors, hasn't gone unnoticed. Systems failures should be accounted for - I hope they were. There's a lot we don't know. This was my take on it (thread)https://twitter.com/C7RKY/status/962954985704214528 …
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