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    1. John Clarke‏ @C7RKY Feb 8

      "He [Justice Hayden] has asked for Alder Hey doctors to give their views on them, because he could not easily reconcile what he saw of Alfie with some of their evidence about his condition" >That's judge-speak for 'Are you taking the p**s?' btw #AlfiesArmyhttps://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/powerful-videos-alfie-evans-forced-14264767 …

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      John Clarke‏ @C7RKY Feb 8

      >> Mr Justice Hayden asked Dr A: “Some of the videos seem to me as a lay person to show a level of interaction between father and son which was based on some kind of mutual recognition, each of the other. Did you see any videos that indicated that to you?” Wait for it...

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        1. John Clarke‏ @C7RKY Feb 8

          >> But the doctor replied: “I did not.” Well he would say that, wouldn't he? Because he'd be up to his neck in it if he said yes. Every day seems to bring a new reason to appreciate how important the independent courts are in containing the medical world just recently.

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        2. Lynn Laidlaw‏ @lynn_laidlaw Feb 9
          Replying to @C7RKY

          Out of interest how much of this have you followed and do you understand why the Dr said that? Not trolling!

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        3. John Clarke‏ @C7RKY Feb 9
          Replying to @lynn_laidlaw

          Others will be closer to this case than me, but nobody knows exactly what video footage was shown to the judge, I gather? But reading between the lines, the doctors were being challenged by the judge to substantiate their claims in the face of seemingly contradictory evidence.

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        4. Lynn Laidlaw‏ @lynn_laidlaw Feb 9
          Replying to @C7RKY

          The judge was asking questions that he thought the family would want answered as they are representing themselves. Videos mean nothing without understanding neurology and context unfortunately.

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        5. John Clarke‏ @C7RKY Feb 9
          Replying to @lynn_laidlaw

          I understand your point. That said, if there was no substance to what the family had to show, I don't think it's likely the judge would've taken it further and asked the doctors to respond to it. Judges do not habitually challenge clinicians or waste time, ime.

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        6. Lynn Laidlaw‏ @lynn_laidlaw Feb 9
          Replying to @C7RKY

          I think in these kinds of cases every avenue is explored. In any case the videos are at the heart of this case, the disconnect between the way Dr's view the " medical facts " and how the parents interpret them. Tragic all round.

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        7. John Clarke‏ @C7RKY Feb 9
          Replying to @lynn_laidlaw

          Yes, but we all saw how that variation in opinion played out with Ashya King. I know it won't go down well, but knowledgeable patients are less willing to take a doctor's word as fact any more. And not based on some ideological whim, but bitter experience. I'd be one of them.

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        8. Lynn Laidlaw‏ @lynn_laidlaw Feb 9
          Replying to @C7RKY

          This is no way comparable to Aysha King. The issue here is medical futility and our understanding of that.

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        9. John Clarke‏ @C7RKY Feb 9
          Replying to @lynn_laidlaw

          Interesting you should see it that way. Was medical futility not exactly the same argument put forward in the Aysha King case? Followed by an international man hunt for the uncompliant parents? Didn't turn out to be as 'futile' as they'd insisted though!https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/ashya-king-is-cancer-free-9813409 …

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        1. Andrew Flynn‏ @MathewFsDad Feb 8
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          waiting :)

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