Also when you analyse in detail ‘clinical decisions’ as many researchers have, often very little clinical about them. Repeated studies have shown the characteristics of the doctor are more influential on outcome than the patient’s clinical situation.
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Replying to @4AdsthePoet @iceman_ex and
that 'characteristics of the doctor' statement certainly hits home as does assessment of mum's clinical situation - the PM for mum highlighted an issue where the trust had been wrong that affected their thinking of mum's overall picture. Never investigated.
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Replying to @katemasters67 @iceman_ex and
Medics acknowledge this in research and between themselves, but present a public face of Dr’s decisions being scientific & objective. Also research show disagreements between Drs as to right action, common place.
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Replying to @4AdsthePoet @iceman_ex and
when you sit in court and defence that comes up time&time again is 'she was dying anyway' to a claim of non communication your faith in scientific evaluation in medicine goes out the window. We always thought she was written off because of cancer, nothing has changed that for me
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Replying to @katemasters67 @iceman_ex and
‘She was dying anyway’ should never be the answer. The question should be BUT FOR the
#HCP’s action or inaction would the patient have died in this way, at this time? It is used to excuse appalling treatment & care of the most vulnerable patients.1 reply 6 retweets 12 likes -
Replying to @4AdsthePoet @iceman_ex and
We had criminal and civil cases. The criminal judge's thinking was that if anyone is responsible for reducing someone's life even by a minute they must be held to account. in this case that was the driver of the car who never deviated from taking responsibility for the accident
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Replying to @katemasters67 @4AdsthePoet and
In stark contrast to the tone of debate on Twitter right now. It honestly feels like exceptionalism gone mad sometimes. But when criminal law starts being targeted with a view to bending it to suit the will of clinicians, I think we risk entering a dark phase.
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Replying to @C7RKY @katemasters67 and
Historically it has always happened. Medics have always had deference from the courts others have not have. The outcry perhaps is that this case reflects perhaps a change in that. I suspect that change only happened here because of the gender, ethnicity & status of the doctor.
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Replying to @4AdsthePoet @katemasters67 and
John Clarke Retweeted John Clarke
It's not just historic. Judicial deference to clinicians is still alive and well, it seems...https://twitter.com/c7rky/status/938175044177596421 …
John Clarke added,
John Clarke @C7RKYOne of the most important commentary pieces I've ever read on informed consent law. Equally so re judicial deference to doctors: "This approach is in line with Bolam rather than Montgomery & reflects her failure to take on board that the landscape of informed consent has shifted" https://twitter.com/louise_austin12/status/935090031340982272 …Show this thread2 replies 0 retweets 1 like -
Replying to @C7RKY @4AdsthePoet and
Not just judicial. Trust complaints. Regulators.
@PHSOmbudsman Pretty much everywhere.2 replies 1 retweet 0 likes
Yes, but we've already found out they're all corrupt by the time we head to the courts. The law is society's last chance for independent (non-medical) judgement to 'civilise' the medical world, to use your phrase David. And now it feels like even that is under attack.
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