However using EXPERTS to look at an incident rather than a jury listening to a prosecution team who are protecting the hospital is sensible - but would inevitably lead to the “doctors covering up for eachother” shouts from the pitchfork mobs. #BawaGarba
Leaving aside the integrity crisis that the research field has been going through recently, there's a key word missing from there. How many of the clinically competent ones were *successfully* sued, Nick? If they're clinically competent, that answer should be none.
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Hospitals will do what is best for the organisation. Always. That includes paying off vexatious complainants rather than supporting their staff “because it’s the cheapest thing to do” even if staff did nothing wrong. I have seen this many times. So not a good question really
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I'm sorry, but that's utterly wrong apart from 1st sentence. Do you have any understanding of the significance of the word 'vexatious' when it comes to a complainant? Do you know where it's referenced in legal material and what it empowers the trust to do?
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#bawagarba case. But plenty of clinically competent staff are complained about. Hospitals do whatever is expedient. That’s why staff need independent medical indemnity cover.#nhs -
Rae, you're jumping around here. Are they suing or complaining? Are they complainants or vexatious complainants? Are we talking generically, or about the
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Patients complain about staff & outcomes. The hospital chooses best course of action FOR the hospital. Minor things - pay off claimant no matter how unjustified the complaint to avoid escalation. Serious cases - look for a scapegoat. It’s a range, not different issues
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Ok.. this I can reply to. You may be right on minor things - it's not been my focus. In fact, it would annoy me to learn people are screwing money out of the NHS for minor things almost as much as learning that it's given to them. If that's happening, then you have my sympathy >>
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>> But on serious cases, you've jumped to the v end by talking about scapegoats. That's the last resort and only used when all other cover-up attempts are unable to disguise the negligence or crime. This inquiry reflects the reality for most complainants:http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-42884446 …
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Maybe you don’t work in the system so you only see the outputs rather than the internal workings of a hospital? Trust me scapegoating is common.
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And although the specific studies are not quoted here, the opposite conclusion is suggested. Excellent watch too this, Nick. Well worth the 15 mins. :)
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D'oh! Forgot the link... sorry.https://twitter.com/c7rky/status/957751680518512640 …
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I’ve just shared that in the hope it will be shared and shared...
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.. and shared and shared and shared... hopefully. :)
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What we all wanted wa a hospital 2 experience. What we got was hospital 1.
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Quite. Just like over in Northern Ireland has just shown.
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What scandal are I talking about in NI?
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I think we should appoint Justice O'Hara to chair every NHS inquiry going from now on. The most honest reflection of the actual experience I think I've seen so far. >https://twitter.com/shaunlintern/status/958699374745354246 …
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