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    John Clarke‏ @C7RKY Jan 26

    John Clarke Retweeted Jeremy Hunt

    Don't be taken in by claims of 'unintended implications' here, or elsewhere by clinicians. These threats ring very hollow to me. This isn't a threat to START covering up, merely a threat to CONTINUE doing so. Duty of candour is a farce. Court cases are what happen in response.https://twitter.com/jeremy_hunt/status/956566247084347393 …

    John Clarke added,

    Jeremy HuntVerified account @Jeremy_Hunt
    Wouldn’t be appropriate for me as Govt Minister to criticise a court ruling, but deeply concerned about possibly unintended implications here for learning & reflective practice in e-journals. Am also totally perplexed that GMC acted as they did: patient safety must be paramount https://twitter.com/shaunlintern/status/956479206854221825 …
    1:27 AM - 26 Jan 2018
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    • Kate Heydon Dr Sara Ryan NHSWatch Reform MH Care Kate Masters
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      2. Steven Shorrock‏ @StevenShorrock Jan 26
        Replying to @C7RKY

        From a psychological point of view it is predictable that people do not wish to incriminate themselves in advance of any legal proceedings. Reflective logs can be misused, like safety investigation interviews. The predictable response would be to write little (for ALL of us).

        2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
      3. John Clarke‏ @C7RKY Jan 26
        Replying to @StevenShorrock

        I do understand that. But most of us don't have a professional & contractual duty of candour, or work for an employer who has a statutory duty of candour. This case is just bringing to a head a situation that has been brewing for decades. Let's hope it leads to a proper solution.

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      4. Steven Shorrock‏ @StevenShorrock Jan 26
        Replying to @C7RKY

        Not by law, but ethically, morally? I used to be a heavy goods driver. Very hazardous job. I would not report myself by going over speed limit. I think we might have to accept now that reflective logs will be weakened now as a learning tool, whatever we’d like. Just human nature.

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      5. John Clarke‏ @C7RKY Jan 26
        Replying to @StevenShorrock

        Maybe so. But it will only illuminate the deception which has underpinned the NHS's response to virtually all complaints for as long as I've been a part. Patients have had enough. Sympathy is unlikely to be plentiful among those who know the reality. Human nature cuts both ways.

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      6. Steven Shorrock‏ @StevenShorrock Jan 26
        Replying to @C7RKY

        But what are the influences on that? Adversarial legal system? Retributive justice without restorative justice? Fear? All in a context of a messy, under-resourced and badly designed system set against societal expectations and demands.

        1 reply 1 retweet 0 likes
      7. John Clarke‏ @C7RKY Jan 26
        Replying to @StevenShorrock

        You're absolutely right. It's a mess. But it's been a mess for a long time. This case doesn't change a thing, it just shows how desperate families are finding they have no choice but to seek justice through courts, when the NHS and the so-called duty of candour fails them.

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      8. Steven Shorrock‏ @StevenShorrock Jan 26
        Replying to @C7RKY

        Two important lenses on this. a) How we would like the world to be. b) How the world is (predictable patterns). When we try to achieve a) we seem to fail to account for b). We use regulation and law without applying psychology, HF/E, sociology, ethnography, systems thinking...

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      9. John Clarke‏ @C7RKY Jan 26
        Replying to @StevenShorrock

        I wouldn't disagree with that in respect of formal changes that are attempted. I think families do account for b) - and that includes the impotence of the regulators - when deciding to go the legal route. It's never a first choice. Whole thing needs a radical rethink.

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      2. Allyn Condon OLY‏ @Allyncondon Jan 26
        Replying to @C7RKY

        That is a great point well made John. A threat to continue.

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      4. John Clarke‏ @C7RKY Jan 26

        If clinicians want immunity for medical errors or special treatment, then total candour and independent handling of medical records is a non-negotiable first step for me. Start with that, otherwise no discussion. The court cases will continue for as long as the lies do, imho.

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      2. Barbara williams‏ @Barbara62141093 Jan 26
        Replying to @C7RKY

        What wouldnt I give just to have one of them tell the truth! Often wondered, in a quiet moment, do none of them ever pause, for just a second, and consider exactly what it is they are doing, and what happens if they get caught?

        2 replies 1 retweet 0 likes
      3. John Clarke‏ @C7RKY Jan 26
        Replying to @Barbara62141093

        I actually think I may have caught mine 'in the act' of the cover up. Ordinarily, I think it's so common for some it becomes bau. Doesn't bother them. But on that day, in that moment, I think at least 1 had chance to consider. After a change of underwear, based upon his reaction!

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      1. Reform MH Care‏ @WeCareAboutMH Jan 26
        Replying to @C7RKY

        This is the same man who gave assurances to whistleblowers last year that their issues would be taken up and then left them to be taken down by the establishment of which he is a key part.

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