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    John Clarke‏ @C7RKY Jan 25

    General reaction from clinicians to the #BawaGarba case: 'If you're going to prosecute us, we're going to cover up more. These are unintended consequences.' General reaction from NHS complainants: 'And? You've been doing that for decades anyway. Nothing unintended about it.'

    11:55 PM - 25 Jan 2018
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    • Jane Bardle Victoria Woodham Vic Nettoyeur Allyn Condon OLY stendec #FBPE 54% IRunWithScissors noreen boland Ken Lownds PhyllisStein2
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      2. John Clarke‏ @C7RKY Jan 26
        Replying to @billdossett

        Serious personal failures and a lack of contrition seem to have been her downfall. But system failures HAVE been sidelined, imho. More game-playing than an entire World Cup tournament going on over this one case.

        2 replies 4 retweets 8 likes
      3. Joanne Fraser‏ @JFr4ser Jan 26
        Replying to @C7RKY @billdossett

        Lack of contrition is debatable. Her reflections were used against her almost like a confession. Her direct lack of apology would’ve been at the direction of legal counsel and the Trust. Many people owe a sorry

        1 reply 1 retweet 2 likes
      4. John Clarke‏ @C7RKY Jan 26
        Replying to @JFr4ser @billdossett

        "...could arise in a truly one-off case where the registrant showed truly exceptional insight and remediation such as where someone self-referred, apologised and fully recognised their failings and personal responsibility. Dr. Bawa-Garba was not a truly exceptional doctor."

        2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
      5. John Clarke‏ @C7RKY Jan 26
        Replying to @C7RKY @JFr4ser @billdossett

        "But Dr Bawa-Garba had limited insight by comparison with those who self-referred, admitted their fault, apologised, did not blame others or systems but instead accepted personal responsibility" >Without a transcript, it's hard to make a personal judgement. But this was theirs.

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      6. Joanne Fraser‏ @JFr4ser Jan 26
        Replying to @C7RKY @billdossett

        Whose?

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      7. John Clarke‏ @C7RKY Jan 26
        Replying to @JFr4ser @billdossett

        http://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWHC/Admin/2018/76.html …pic.twitter.com/8tyL8b5sRq

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      8. Joanne Fraser‏ @JFr4ser Jan 26
        Replying to @C7RKY @billdossett

        Was that the high court ruling? Persuaded by lawyers for GMC. Like a discount for early plea goes against those who want to try to clear their name. Rarely is there true credit for falling on a sword

        0 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
      9. End of conversation
      1. New conversation
      2. Jim Crawfurd‏ @jim_crawfurd Jan 26
        Replying to @C7RKY

        Agree that’s how it looks. But there really has been a drive recently for more openness, learning culture, looking at systemic problems rather than a “culture of blame” etc, and I think this outcome has driven that back. Good summary of the concerns here:pic.twitter.com/BXAm01XL36

        1 reply 2 retweets 4 likes
      3. John Clarke‏ @C7RKY Jan 26
        Replying to @jim_crawfurd

        I actually think current duty of candour efforts are largely superficial tbh, Jim. And I believe that is what prompts people to head for the courts. I don't want to criminalise medical error - on the contrary. But I DO want to criminalise lack of candour. Needs a radical rethink.

        3 replies 0 retweets 6 likes
      4. Joanne Fraser‏ @JFr4ser Jan 26
        Replying to @C7RKY @jim_crawfurd

        You likely can’t. Accused have a right to silence and against self-incrimination. Forcing HCPs to be candid gives them less legal rights than other members of society

        1 reply 1 retweet 2 likes
      5. John Clarke‏ @C7RKY Jan 26
        Replying to @JFr4ser @jim_crawfurd

        John Clarke Retweeted John Clarke

        Viewed in isolation, I might agree. We need to come up with ways of accommodating the rights of all here. I don't know the answer, but we have to try and find it. And quick.https://twitter.com/c7rky/status/937068760502079488 …

        John Clarke added,

        John Clarke @C7RKY
        Well, there you have it. Discuss... #NHS #DutyOfCandour #RobbiesLaw pic.twitter.com/A1KU7QWL52
        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      6. Joanne Fraser‏ @JFr4ser Jan 26
        Replying to @C7RKY @jim_crawfurd

        This is doctors talking. Not lawyers. Every criminal lawyer, certainly in Scotland where I am, will first advise make no comment. The crown has to prove a case, the defence doesn’t have to disprove it

        1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
      7. John Clarke‏ @C7RKY Jan 26
        Replying to @JFr4ser @jim_crawfurd

        No, it's me talking. As someone who has more cause to want to see doctors prosecuted for their criminal deception than most. But instead, I'm trying to find a fair solution for all. It's just an idea for discussion, but I'm all ears to alternative suggestions that will work.

        1 reply 2 retweets 2 likes
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      1. stendec #FBPE 54%‏ @stendec6 Jan 26
        Replying to @C7RKY

        Deliberate dishonesty was the CAUSE of my complaint, not just a consequence of it.

        0 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
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