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    1. mark cheetham‏ @MarkCheetham Jan 15
      Replying to @C7RKY @theveindoc

      Hi John take a look here https://www.rcseng.ac.uk/-/media/files/rcs/library-and-publications/non-journal-publications/consent_2016_combined-p2.pdf … see page 22

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    2. theveindoc‏ @theveindoc Jan 15
      Replying to @MarkCheetham @C7RKY

      Ah thanks saved me looking it up Page 24 on my copy!

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    3. mark cheetham‏ @MarkCheetham Jan 15
      Replying to @theveindoc @C7RKY

      It's page no 22 but the 24th page. No pages ins at the intro

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    4. John Clarke‏ @C7RKY Jan 15
      Replying to @MarkCheetham @theveindoc

      Thank you Mark. A Royal College document? I didn't expect that. How would this sit alongside guidance issued by the likes of GMC, DoH, etc? Is one considered the definitive source? Can't help note it says 'should' be given in that one too. Not even 'must'.

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    5. mark cheetham‏ @MarkCheetham Jan 15
      Replying to @C7RKY @theveindoc

      The royal college guidance is the most up to date (Current GMC and DOH guidance dates back to 2008 and 2009). I guess all guidance is should

      4 replies 1 retweet 1 like
    6. John Clarke‏ @C7RKY Jan 15
      Replying to @MarkCheetham @theveindoc

      Is whichever is most up to date the only determining factor? GMC are reviewing their guidelines now (a bit late - that letter above is dated Oct 2014!) but will the torch then just be passed to GMC as the most definitive, when it becomes the latest?https://www.gmc-uk.org/guidance/news_consultation/30001.asp …

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    7. mark cheetham‏ @MarkCheetham Jan 16
      Replying to @C7RKY @theveindoc

      I suppose it depends on the context. The RCS guidance interpreted the GMC guidance and is more up to date and practical

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    8. Ken Lownds‏ @KenZeroHarm Jan 16
      Replying to @MarkCheetham @C7RKY @theveindoc

      ZHH You know my view, Mark; one authoritative source, pls, NHS, etc etc etc

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    9. John Clarke‏ @C7RKY Jan 16
      Replying to @KenZeroHarm @MarkCheetham @theveindoc

      I'm inclined to agree, Ken. If for no other reason than to maximise learning. E.g. Would @RCSnews have been aware of this jointly signed letter that GMC received on the subject from CQC & NHSE in 2014, when reviewing their own guidance? I don't know.pic.twitter.com/dG7KJA0QvH

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    10. Ken Lownds‏ @KenZeroHarm Jan 16
      Replying to @C7RKY @MarkCheetham and

      ZHH Not sure it's "learning", John; "This is what everyone will do". In safety-critical sectors lots has to be mandated

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      John Clarke‏ @C7RKY Jan 16
      Replying to @KenZeroHarm @MarkCheetham and

      Learning what needs to be mandated is still learning. But I like your thinking. :)

      10:50 AM - 16 Jan 2018
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