One reason they can do that legally is that you do not own the information about you in your NHS records. The NHS does.
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also been shown that even with clinical practitioners using all the approved good communication techniques, unrushed (with third party observation of consultation) patients (especially at stressful/bad news consultations) don't recall half of it so why not have a recording?
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Aaah... great minds & all that. See my last tweet.
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same with body cams for police - it protects BOTH parties. I have investigated or responded to complaints where people said no-one had spoken to them/or had told them things they never did say and being able to point to 3 hours of recorded conversation would help put them to bed
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I couldn't agree more. This holds particular significance for me as my interest is in consent - where the law recognises the conversation, not the form to be the critical element. In theory, at least.
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ZHH "...the law recognises the conversation...." I'm surprised. What law covers this pls?
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It stems from case law, as I understand it Ken? It's been a while since a trawled through it all, but it's touched upon in this DoH guide: https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/138296/dh_103653__1_.pdf …pic.twitter.com/ul5ywU2Dsz
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ZHH I think very many patients + loved ones will be surprised by this
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Indeed it does. These may also interest you Ken. They are the 2 written parliamentary questions which Charlotte Leslie submitted to DoH after meeting with me. http://www.parliament.uk/business/publications/written-questions-answers-statements/written-question/Commons/2014-07-15/205948/ … And... http://www.parliament.uk/business/publications/written-questions-answers-statements/written-question/Commons/2014-07-16/206241/ …
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so long as recording isn't being done covertly and both parties can have a copy to ensure neither party can selectively edit without being found out, I would have no problem with this, Although in my job I spend at least as much time speaking with families/carers as patients
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I've never personally made a secret of it and not once had a clinician object. It's amazing how much of a consultation you can forget under stress, so it's proved v helpful. Although I confess accuracy of records to be what made me start.https://twitter.com/c7rky/status/946348281675829248 …
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Excellent discussion over some very difficult questions and one where the public/patient/carer's voices must be uppermost whilst at the same time giving professionals support in decision making. There will always be grey areas where judgement has to be allowed.
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