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    1. John Clarke‏ @C7RKY 15 Jul 2013

      "Stories of nurses shouting at families who give a patient a drink were frequent" >An utterly indefensible disgrace > http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2364029/How-Liverpool-Care-Pathway-used-excuse-appalling-care.html …

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    2. garyk01‏ @garyk01 15 Jul 2013
      Replying to @C7RKY

      @C7RKY its the last paragraph in the small insert that gave me paroxysms. 'incentives to end patients lives' this needs explaining in full

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    3. John Clarke‏ @C7RKY 15 Jul 2013
      Replying to @garyk01

      @garyk01 Basic behavioural modelling. Make something financially more worthwhile & you'll get more of it. Whether it's right for pt or not.

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    4. garyk01‏ @garyk01 15 Jul 2013
      Replying to @C7RKY

      @C7RKY in part of the article you linked, it states 'the government are to phase out the incentives paid to trusts to end patients lives'

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    5. John Clarke‏ @C7RKY 15 Jul 2013
      Replying to @garyk01

      @garyk01 Yes, they've been paid £millions to ensure more people died on LCP up to now. Dangerous & highly inappropriate imho.

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    6. garyk01‏ @garyk01 15 Jul 2013
      Replying to @C7RKY

      @C7RKY maybe its me. an incentive to end a patients life is not the same as using a paricular model. it does not say payment to follow lcp.

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    7. John Clarke‏ @C7RKY 15 Jul 2013
      Replying to @garyk01

      @garyk01 You're right, but a model which withholds life sustaining factors might have the same effect, if used inappropriately. Adds risk.

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    8. garyk01‏ @garyk01 15 Jul 2013
      Replying to @C7RKY

      @C7RKY the mail seems to say trusts have been paid to end lives. if it isnt that literal, it is poor journalism

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    9. John Clarke‏ @C7RKY 15 Jul 2013
      Replying to @garyk01

      @garyk01 Perhaps so. The big question for me is who gets to decide who's 'dying'? LCP has its place, but not w/o consultation in my mind.

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    10. garyk01‏ @garyk01 15 Jul 2013
      Replying to @C7RKY

      @C7RKY developed to ensure a comfortable end for people in the last stages of terminal cancer, with patient and relatives as part of a team

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      John Clarke‏ @C7RKY 15 Jul 2013
      Replying to @garyk01

      @garyk01 iI's the last part where the problem lays for me. Half of all LCP deaths w/o knowledge of pt/family from what I read? That's wrong.

      8:10 AM - 15 Jul 2013
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        2. garyk01‏ @garyk01 15 Jul 2013
          Replying to @C7RKY

          @C7RKY NHS management failed badly in not implementing and managing widescale use of the model, if it was aimed at bettering standards.

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        3. John Clarke‏ @C7RKY 15 Jul 2013
          Replying to @garyk01

          @garyk01 It believe it had good intent. But when used without discussion & tales emerge of LCP 'survivors', serious questions must be asked.

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        4. garyk01‏ @garyk01 15 Jul 2013
          Replying to @C7RKY

          @C7RKY definitely. I guess thats why the scandal is here. I have asked the mail to clarify what they meant in the article

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