"doctors have been establishing ‘death lists’ of patients to be put on the pathway."...accused of using it to cut costs & save bed spaces.
"Stories of nurses shouting at families who give a patient a drink were frequent" >An utterly indefensible disgrace > http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2364029/How-Liverpool-Care-Pathway-used-excuse-appalling-care.html …
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@prisonerben Or a little tighter than it needs to be for some - depending on your perspective I suppose. :) -
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@prisonerben At least you see it for what it is now. It's the inconsistency of application that concerns me. Medicine seems to blur the line -
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@prisonerben Well I wish we all had a 'Bolam' defence, where we're innocent if 10% of our mates would've done the same thing. Can't be right -
@prisonerben For clarity, Bolam only applies to medical negligence - before somebody shouts at me! :)
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@C7RKY its the last paragraph in the small insert that gave me paroxysms. 'incentives to end patients lives' this needs explaining in full -
@garyk01 Basic behavioural modelling. Make something financially more worthwhile & you'll get more of it. Whether it's right for pt or not. -
@C7RKY in part of the article you linked, it states 'the government are to phase out the incentives paid to trusts to end patients lives' -
@garyk01 Yes, they've been paid £millions to ensure more people died on LCP up to now. Dangerous & highly inappropriate imho. -
@C7RKY maybe its me. an incentive to end a patients life is not the same as using a paricular model. it does not say payment to follow lcp. -
@garyk01 You're right, but a model which withholds life sustaining factors might have the same effect, if used inappropriately. Adds risk. -
@C7RKY the mail seems to say trusts have been paid to end lives. if it isnt that literal, it is poor journalism -
@garyk01 Perhaps so. The big question for me is who gets to decide who's 'dying'? LCP has its place, but not w/o consultation in my mind. - 5 more replies
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@C7RKY I agree, the ignorant partisan coverage by the Mail is an indefensible disgrace to humanity -
@bendean1979 A flippant 1 liner about the Mail won't cut it here Ben. Denying a pt the chance drink naturally isn't even in the LCP, is it? -
@C7RKY you can repeat the same old tired argument ad infinitum John, but bad care like this is not the LCP's fault -
@bendean1979 And you can stick to the blind pro-LCP crap, but is denying a pt the chance to drink naturally part of LCP or not? I think not.
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