@archangelolill @C7RKY it's difficult to measure I think, as Gerry says outcomes influenced by lots of factors.
@MichaelAvenging @archangelolill Agreed. Hence why it's so challenging. But there are good/bad surgeons, like any job. How to distinguish?
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@C7RKY @archangelolill was surgery necessary? Was cause of injury/ loss of life directly caused by poor surgical technique? Complex. -
@MichaelAvenging @archangelolill Appreciated. But I'll guarantee that surgeons know who are the good/less good among them. There'll be a way
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@C7RKY @archangelolill I think it would be incredibly difficult to quantify. And surgeons/ staff WB on poor outcomes? More now maybe -
@MichaelAvenging @archangelolill I don't want to create a predatory system, where surgical staff live in fear. Mistakes are inevitable. In >
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@MichaelAvenging @archangelolill a healthy environment, they would be acknowledged instantly, so most can be done for the pt/family as well>
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@MichaelAvenging @archangelolill as helping staff member both cope with & learn from the experience imho. Immediate response now is to hide.
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@C7RKY @archangelolill 100% agreed. We are all human. We all make mistakes. But we all need to be big enough to say 'I can't do this'
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@C7RKY @MichaelAvenging @archangelolill I think that mortality data on surgeons is so wrong and just cover-up for what we realy need to now -
@kaclarke456 @MichaelAvenging @archangelolill Which is what? If you had to choose a surgeon now, what info would you look at to decide? -
@C7RKY@kaclarke456 @archangelolill I'm a nurse, but I'd implicitly trust a surgeon. Don't think I'd 'choose' to be honest! -
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@kaclarke456 @archangelolill Sorry to say having implicitly trusted, I've been sorely let down. No longer an option for me. -
@C7RKY@kaclarke456 @archangelolill I can understand that, John. Unless I had to I wouldn't go under knife. Some people insist though! -
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@kaclarke456 @archangelolill I accept both risks & honest errors Michael. But the lies & deceit changed the game for me. :( -
@C7RKY@kaclarke456 @archangelolill yeah, it's pointless and heartless. In my experience, pts want honesty and just a straight forward sorry -
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@kaclarke456 @archangelolill Thank you. Learned a lot since those trusting days. Mainly not to trust a thing if honest! Lol - 2 more replies
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