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    1. diana smith‏ @mulberrybush 9 Mar 2013
      Replying to @JoinedU1

      @JoinedU1 @heatherawwood @BenClover good question. & if you have read & understood http://skwalker1964.wordpress.com/2013/02/26/the-real-mid-staffs-story-one-excess-death-if-that/ … you will see no easy answer

      3 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    2. Dr Heather Wood‏ @heatherawwood 10 Mar 2013
      Replying to @mulberrybush

      @mulberrybush @joinedu1 @benclover Docs often reluctant to say firmly that poor care 'caused' death. But you believe what you choose Diana.

      4 replies 3 retweets 0 likes
    3. diana smith‏ @mulberrybush 10 Mar 2013
      Replying to @heatherawwood

      @heatherawwood @JoinedU1 @BenClover The 400-1200 based on seriously poor data has always been unhelpful in getting this across.

      4 replies 1 retweet 1 like
    4. Dr Heather Wood‏ @heatherawwood 10 Mar 2013
      Replying to @mulberrybush

      @mulberrybush @benclover In fact I would like you to withdraw that remark. Can argue abt interpretation, but no of excess deaths was robust

      4 replies 4 retweets 2 likes
    5. diana smith‏ @mulberrybush 10 Mar 2013
      Replying to @heatherawwood

      @heatherawwood @BenClover If the quality of data is irrelevant then the system to me seems to have no purpose.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    6. Dr Heather Wood‏ @heatherawwood 10 Mar 2013
      Replying to @mulberrybush

      @mulberrybush Diana, am giving up on you. The quality of stat analysis was EXCELLENT. Were 000s excess deaths. How interpret is different.

      4 replies 1 retweet 0 likes
    7. John Clarke‏ @C7RKY 10 Mar 2013
      Replying to @heatherawwood

      @heatherawwood @mulberrybush If air traffic data says a plane crashed & you find evidence of wreckage, why would you argue the data's wrong?

      4 replies 1 retweet 0 likes
    8. Eddy Ventolera‏ @atm0spheric 11 Mar 2013
      Replying to @C7RKY

      @C7RKY @heatherawwood @mulberrybush Unlike air traffic data, hospital motality data does not clearlyly identify landings and crashes.

      3 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    9. John Clarke‏ @C7RKY 11 Mar 2013
      Replying to @atm0spheric

      @atm0spheric @heatherawwood @mulberrybush It may not clearly do so, (although it should), but where a crash is suspected, we check, surely?

      2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    10. Eddy Ventolera‏ @atm0spheric 11 Mar 2013
      Replying to @C7RKY

      @C7RKY @heatherawwood @mulberrybush Absolutely - and many of mid staffs seem to be landings at the wrong terminal rather than crashes.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      John Clarke‏ @C7RKY 11 Mar 2013
      Replying to @atm0spheric

      @atm0spheric @heatherawwood @mulberrybush Sorry, I'm not sure I understand this. Wrong terminal?

      6:24 AM - 11 Mar 2013
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        2. Eddy Ventolera‏ @atm0spheric 11 Mar 2013
          Replying to @C7RKY

          @C7RKY @heatherawwood @mulberrybush See the (inadequate) best analysis left standing http://skwalker1964.wordpress.com/2013/02/26/the-real-mid-staffs-story-one-excess-death-if-that/ …

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        3. John Clarke‏ @C7RKY 11 Mar 2013
          Replying to @atm0spheric

          @atm0spheric @heatherawwood @mulberrybush I've seen it. TBH, the only analysis I trust of anything these days is my own. Too many agendas...

          2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
        4. Eddy Ventolera‏ @atm0spheric 11 Mar 2013
          Replying to @C7RKY

          @C7RKY @heatherawwood @mulberrybush Trusting our own means limited certainty because we each have limited time. Knowing who to trust is key.

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        5. John Clarke‏ @C7RKY 11 Mar 2013
          Replying to @atm0spheric

          @atm0spheric @heatherawwood @mulberrybush I'm running seriously low on trust after my own experiences (not Stafford). This is a UK problem.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        6. Eddy Ventolera‏ @atm0spheric 11 Mar 2013
          Replying to @C7RKY

          @C7RKY @heatherawwood @mulberrybush Indeed - it is a problem of poor management quality in the UK, IMHO rooted in autocracy at the top.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        7. John Clarke‏ @C7RKY 11 Mar 2013
          Replying to @atm0spheric

          @atm0spheric @heatherawwood @mulberrybush Quite so. And that's before we get into any debate about moral bankruptcy amongst those who govern

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        8. End of conversation
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        2. Eddy Ventolera‏ @atm0spheric 11 Mar 2013
          Replying to @C7RKY

          @C7RKY @heatherawwood @mulberrybush The deaths were not 'unnecessary'. The where and how were very wrong; the when less so.

          2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
        3. John Clarke‏ @C7RKY 11 Mar 2013
          Replying to @atm0spheric

          @atm0spheric @heatherawwood @mulberrybush Ok, but if people die as a result of care failures that shouldn't happen, is that not unnecessary?

          2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
        4. Eddy Ventolera‏ @atm0spheric 11 Mar 2013
          Replying to @C7RKY

          @C7RKY @heatherawwood @mulberrybush Whether they should have died depends on the history - where the stats were poor & allegedly fiddled.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        5. John Clarke‏ @C7RKY 11 Mar 2013
          Replying to @atm0spheric

          @atm0spheric @heatherawwood @mulberrybush I think what the fiddling of these stats indicates about NHS attitudes is what should worry us all

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        6. Eddy Ventolera‏ @atm0spheric 11 Mar 2013
          Replying to @C7RKY

          @C7RKY @heatherawwood @mulberrybush Yes - plausibly a flawed (commercial) system used by weak managers to bully staff into ticking boxes.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        7. John Clarke‏ @C7RKY 11 Mar 2013
          Replying to @atm0spheric

          @atm0spheric @heatherawwood @mulberrybush With systems, codes, regulation & even law, all set up to deny truth & justice to medical victims.

          0 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
        8. End of conversation
        1. Eddy Ventolera‏ @atm0spheric 11 Mar 2013
          Replying to @C7RKY

          @C7RKY @heatherawwood @mulberrybush Whether I die is a foregone conclusion. When, where and how are what matter.

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