@katemasters67 @jarmann @rivkahmiar @curethenhs I don't disagree at all. Just think the concept of consent not being needed is spurious.
@JFr4ser @katemasters67 @jarmann @rivkahmiar @curethenhs So simply put, this is conflict between safety & hitting targets. Targets win!
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@C7RKY@katemasters67@jarmann@rivkahmiar@curethenhs < other ones. None I've worked in anyway. -
@JFr4ser Don't pretend to understand all factors, but it feels to me like clinical opinion is being placed under pressure to bend by targets -
@C7RKY < you might be delayed getting ultrasound to confirm or ERCP to remove. -
@JFr4ser then we should fund all life-threatening requirements. Not interested in pretty charts saying 4hr target met if patient died later! -
@C7RKY Agree. And in trusts with good financial & operational planning that happens to a large degree. Invariably still have restrictions -
@JFr4ser This is a fascinating chat I could continue for some time, but going to take my little boy to the park now, so catch you later. :) -
@C7RKY Enjoy. A better way to spend the afternoon. Just to be clear I offer no defence for events at MidStaff
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@JFr4ser Thanks. I understand. And to be clear on my part, I am not one of the MidStaffs group. My story lies elsewhere. Have a good day :)
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@C7RKY@katemasters67@jarmann@rivkahmiar@curethenhs Having read Gary Walkers account clearly that applies in some organisations but not>Thanks. Twitter will use this to make your timeline better. UndoUndo
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@C7RKY@katemasters67@jarmann@rivkahmiar@curethenhs > waiting time, discharged home & thought the service they received was great...Thanks. Twitter will use this to make your timeline better. UndoUndo
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@C7RKY@katemasters67@jarmann@rivkahmiar@curethenhs > with minor injury ie sprains etc who were promptly seen, not troubled with excess>Thanks. Twitter will use this to make your timeline better. UndoUndo
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@C7RKY@katemasters67@jarmann@rivkahmiar@curethenhs < becomes priority. Within that there will be individual pts who presented to AE >Thanks. Twitter will use this to make your timeline better. UndoUndo
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@C7RKY@katemasters67@jarmann@rivkahmiar@curethenhs < meeting these "quality indicators" then the pursuit of them over all others >Thanks. Twitter will use this to make your timeline better. UndoUndo
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@C7RKY@katemasters67@jarmann@rivkahmiar@curethenhs < for individuals clearly wasn't clinically best. If financial survival is based on >Thanks. Twitter will use this to make your timeline better. UndoUndo
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@C7RKY@katemasters67@jarmann@rivkahmiar@curethenhs < understand it to be focus on achieving 4hr target was indicator of quality but >Thanks. Twitter will use this to make your timeline better. UndoUndo
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@C7RKY@katemasters67@jarmann@rivkahmiar@curethenhs no, because all pts have needs & its trying to meet them all. At MidStaff I >Thanks. Twitter will use this to make your timeline better. UndoUndo
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