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Of course views all mine. All without prejudice. Just a regular chap after all. Oh...and RT's may equally imply ridicule as endorsement.

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    John Clarke‏ @C7RKY Oct 26

    John Clarke Retweeted Dr David Nicholl

    Just working through the #BawaGarba court transcripts of her testimony & cross examination now. Yes, you read that right - I have transcripts. Guess we'll just see how 'definitive' @deb_cohen et al's take on events really was? Buckle up. Reality is about to put in an appearance.https://twitter.com/djnicholl/status/1055778977258856448 …

    John Clarke added,

    Dr David Nicholl @djnicholl
    #RSMWTGW a lot of questions re #bawagarba this from @deb_cohen who had access to the court transcripts is the definitive piece https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/resources/idt-sh/the_struck_off_doctor … #learnnotblame
    6:21 AM - 26 Oct 2018
    • 8 Retweets
    • 26 Likes
    • Kate Masters Dr Umesh Prabhu karen armstrong 🏍 Lynne Gee  📱+🚗 =❌! Mr T Lynn Laidlaw Lillington PhyllisStein2 Fiona French
    10 replies 8 retweets 26 likes
      1. New conversation
      2. Deborah Cohen‏ @deb_cohen Oct 26
        Replying to @C7RKY

        Why don’t you make them public then?

        3 replies 0 retweets 1 like
      3. Kate Masters‏ @katemasters67 Oct 26
        Replying to @deb_cohen @C7RKY

        Why didn’t you?

        2 replies 1 retweet 6 likes
      4. Deborah Cohen‏ @deb_cohen Oct 26
        Replying to @katemasters67 @C7RKY

        Because they're not mine to release. Just as John can't release them. It's up to Nicky

        3 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
      5. Kara‏ @KaraChrome Oct 27
        Replying to @deb_cohen @katemasters67 @C7RKY

        If you knew that Nicky is the only person with the right to put the transcripts into the public domain, why were you suggesting to John that he act unethically? Incitement like that puts your probity and credibility further into question.

        1 reply 2 retweets 2 likes
      6. John Clarke‏ @C7RKY Oct 27
        Replying to @KaraChrome @deb_cohen @katemasters67

        My concern would be that it seems entirely possible to be in contempt of court if transcripts were to be released without thought. Reporting restrictions may require redaction. Journalists would know more about that than me though.

        1 reply 1 retweet 2 likes
      7. Kirsten Sjovoll‏ @KirstenSjovoll Oct 27
        Replying to @C7RKY @KaraChrome and

        Unless there was a s4(2) contempt of court act order in place at the time (which would postpone not prohibit fair and accurate reporting) it’s unlikely the transcripts would be confidential to extent they reflect things said in open court. Possible but would be unusual.

        2 replies 1 retweet 2 likes
      8. John Clarke‏ @C7RKY Oct 27
        Replying to @KirstenSjovoll @KaraChrome and

        Interesting, thank you. How are matters of innocent parties addressed in all this? Say for example if details of somebody's children were to be mentioned during background, would some sort of restriction not apply to the publication of that aspect? All new to me, this.

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      9. Kirsten Sjovoll‏ @KirstenSjovoll Oct 27
        Replying to @C7RKY @KaraChrome and

        Nope. General rule is if it’s open court it’s in public domain unless you are successful in obtaining a reporting restriction at the time. And presumption is open justice. If you’re bored w/transcripts have a read of Supreme Court case Khuja: http://www.bailii.org/uk/cases/UKSC/2017/49.html …

        1 reply 2 retweets 4 likes
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      2. PhyllisStein2‏ @PhyllisStein2 Oct 26
        Replying to @C7RKY

        @djnicholl @deb_cohen I am looking forward to your conclusions and to see whether they are nearer his Mum's or the drs

        1 reply 0 retweets 5 likes
      3. Deborah Cohen‏ @deb_cohen Oct 26
        Replying to @PhyllisStein2 @C7RKY @djnicholl

        Mum and doctor corroborated each other about what happened on the day. It’s never been a case of doctor denying what happened. The issue has always been about whether a criminal conviction is right

        1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
      4. PhyllisStein2‏ @PhyllisStein2 Oct 26
        Replying to @deb_cohen @C7RKY @djnicholl

        They definitely don't agree about whether she should continue to be a dr and how much the system is to blame.

        2 replies 0 retweets 4 likes
      5. Deborah Cohen‏ @deb_cohen Oct 26
        Replying to @PhyllisStein2 @C7RKY @djnicholl

        You won’t get all the systems failures from the court transcript because they weren’t all heard.

        2 replies 0 retweets 4 likes
      6. John Clarke‏ @C7RKY Oct 26
        Replying to @deb_cohen @PhyllisStein2 @djnicholl

        John Clarke Retweeted John Clarke

        All the ones that were of significance were heard. But you already knew that Deb.https://twitter.com/c7rky/status/1049232400197271552?s=21 …

        John Clarke added,

        John Clarke @C7RKY
        Replying to @C7RKY @DrJennyVaughan and 24 others
        In actual fact, the only 2 systemic factors not explored at trial were those deemed to be "of no consequence because #BawaGarba could have called on a consultant". The High Court even confirmed "All significant systemic errors and responsibility of others were before the jury" 3/ pic.twitter.com/Ma1BfQdBS8
        1 reply 1 retweet 3 likes
      7. Deborah Cohen‏ @deb_cohen Oct 26
        Replying to @C7RKY @PhyllisStein2 @djnicholl

        Significance comes down to legal argument and Andrew Thomas QC is a cracking barrister. I do think it's a shame that the SUI wasn't heard in its entirety and then all this conversation would be redundant

        2 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
      8. John Clarke‏ @C7RKY Oct 26
        Replying to @deb_cohen @PhyllisStein2 @djnicholl

        John Clarke Retweeted John Clarke

        Andrew Thomas QC may well be a cracking barrister, but I'll stick with the view of Sir Brian Leveson & colleagues from the High Court judgement I think. And regarding the SUI report, let's not forget #BawaGarba 's defence agreed to it not being included.https://twitter.com/c7rky/status/1040624475077844992?s=21 …

        John Clarke added,

        John Clarke @C7RKY
        Replying to @doctorcaldwell @AdrienneCullen and 48 others
        Whatever the jury got to hear from both sides, we'll be able to read it. I value that. CPS have behaved abominably in many cases, I agree. But it's simply untrue to say that 'the SUI report was not allowed as evidence in #BawaGarba's case'. Her defence agreed & I'm not surprised. pic.twitter.com/iYbap6HUBc
        0 replies 4 retweets 4 likes
      9. End of conversation
      1. New conversation
      2. Ken Lownds‏ @KenZeroHarm Oct 26
        Replying to @C7RKY @deb_cohen

        ZHH .... Shouldn’t they be freely available? I wonder who I ask for my copy

        1 reply 1 retweet 0 likes
      3. PhyllisStein2‏ @PhyllisStein2 Oct 26
        Replying to @KenZeroHarm @C7RKY @deb_cohen

        They were extortionate. John and I looked at ways to raise the funds for them. Glad he succeeded

        1 reply 1 retweet 5 likes
      4. John Clarke‏ @C7RKY Oct 26
        Replying to @PhyllisStein2 @KenZeroHarm @deb_cohen

        Nothing to do with me. Yes, I was desperate to get hold of them, but it's #JackAdcock 's poor family that have had to pay for this out of their own pocket to expose the truth. W/o the benefit of a global crowd funding effort to support them. It's @victoradcock2 we have to thank.

        3 replies 3 retweets 8 likes
      5. Ken Lownds‏ @KenZeroHarm Oct 26
        Replying to @C7RKY @PhyllisStein2 and

        ZHH That simply cannot be a #JustCulture

        1 reply 2 retweets 4 likes
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      7. Victor Adcock‏ @VictorAdcock2 Oct 28

        They removed it after myself & lots of friends had lots to say about it. They couldn’t delete our comments (truth) quick enough so removed the post altogether. That’s guilt for you

        2 replies 3 retweets 4 likes
      8. Cathy Welch‏ @Cjw450Cathy Oct 28
        Replying to @VictorAdcock2 @KenZeroHarm and

        Have you asked them? May not be as underhanded as might appear on face of it.

        2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
      9. Kate Masters‏ @katemasters67 Oct 28
        Replying to @Cjw450Cathy @VictorAdcock2 and

        I think it’s a stretch to ask that to be honest Cathy. Are they really so heartless that they think a bereaved family will feel nothing about a doctor thanking their whole profession for funding their legal appeal when the family have had to remortgage to pay inquest fees?

        2 replies 4 retweets 4 likes
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