Everybody wants a system that's safe. The only debate there is who is preventing progress. But current efforts are very much themed around uniquely securing immunity from GNM prosecution for doctors imho. Something I, as a member of the public, find to be objectionable frankly.
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Replying to @C7RKY @aislinnmacklin and
The distinction is doctors who intentionally set out to do harm and those that might do harm in the course of providing care to the best of their ability. The former should rightly be prosecuted. The latter need a more compassionate approach even if there are sanctions.
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Replying to @jsbamrah @aislinnmacklin and
Sorry, but that's part of the myth that's built up since the
#BawaGarba propaganda machine kicked in (belatedly). GNM doesn't require intent - that would make it murder. Manslaughter charges exist to recognise just such a lack of intent where gross negligence proves to be deadly.2 replies 4 retweets 3 likes -
Cathy Welch Retweeted Cathy Welch
No, I put it to you that a myth of evil is created to justify blame and extreme punishment for the obvioys cause- easier than facing the uncomfortable truth about a system set to fail.https://twitter.com/cjw450cathy/status/1054466730855153665?s=21 …
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John Clarke Retweeted John Clarke
You put it to me? There's nothing comfortable about either option. And they're not mutually exclusive. The 'system' does need fixing, but mustn't be allowed to become the sole focus of blame just because it conveniently avoids individual accountability.https://twitter.com/c7rky/status/1053582542694244352?s=21 …
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John Clarke @C7RKYThis is what happens when you allow 'the system' to take the fall. Learn not blame, eh? "Devon & Cornwall Police has pleaded guilty to health & safety breaches following Thomas Orchard's death in custody in 2012" "No individual person is being prosecuted" https://news.sky.com/story/thomas-orchard-devon-and-cornwall-police-admits-failings-after-custody-death-11529590 …2 replies 1 retweet 0 likes -
I agree, but likewise the other way too. There is far more a tradition of individual responsibility over communal or systemic, a direct product of Taylorism and ‘Scientific management’ from the early C20th.http://www.businessdictionary.com/definition/Taylorism.html …
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John Clarke Retweeted John Clarke
I've not done a thesis on the subject or anything, but I can tell you that after 7yrs of this nonsense & encountering literally hundreds of others in the same boat, individual NHS blame doesn't appear obvious to us. A few replies here anecdotally agree:https://twitter.com/c7rky/status/1052201127574409216?s=21 …
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Replying to @C7RKY @Cjw450Cathy and
What I have seen is senior docs throwing junior docs under the bus. Remember one memorable case where consultant blamed it all on his junior and I was stopped from asking more questions about his role and availability.
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Replying to @KirstenSjovoll @Cjw450Cathy and
That's outrageous. I'm bursting to ask you 'stopped by whom?' but it's unfair to put you on the spot on twitter. Did he escape scrutiny? I realise this is a sad reflection of my sceptical mind, but I suspect that happens when complete cover up (the preferred route) is impossible.
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Replying to @C7RKY @Cjw450Cathy and
it was in the context of an inquest. Not an uncommon experience.
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In that context, I can only imagine one person with the ability to stop you. Which given the purpose of proceedings, would be concerning enough in a single example, never mind with any greater frequency.
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