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Of course views all mine. All without prejudice. Just a regular chap after all. Oh...and RT's may equally imply ridicule as endorsement.

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    1. JS Bamrah CBE‏ @jsbamrah Oct 4
      Replying to @C7RKY @aislinnmacklin and

      The distinction is doctors who intentionally set out to do harm and those that might do harm in the course of providing care to the best of their ability. The former should rightly be prosecuted. The latter need a more compassionate approach even if there are sanctions.

      3 replies 5 retweets 7 likes
    2. John Clarke‏ @C7RKY Oct 4
      Replying to @jsbamrah @aislinnmacklin and

      Sorry, but that's part of the myth that's built up since the #BawaGarba propaganda machine kicked in (belatedly). GNM doesn't require intent - that would make it murder. Manslaughter charges exist to recognise just such a lack of intent where gross negligence proves to be deadly.

      2 replies 4 retweets 3 likes
    3. Cathy Welch‏ @Cjw450Cathy Oct 23
      Replying to @C7RKY @jsbamrah and

      Cathy Welch Retweeted Cathy Welch

      No, I put it to you that a myth of evil is created to justify blame and extreme punishment for the obvioys cause- easier than facing the uncomfortable truth about a system set to fail.https://twitter.com/cjw450cathy/status/1054466730855153665?s=21 …

      Cathy Welch added,

      Cathy Welch @Cjw450Cathy
      Replying to @KenZeroHarm @AlisonSJones5 and 5 others
      1/4 Stop and think about something close to home, a pot-plant for instance. You know the basic rules- water and feed regularly, place it in light/shade according to instructions. But it starts to wilt...
      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    4. John Clarke‏ @C7RKY Oct 23
      Replying to @Cjw450Cathy @jsbamrah and

      John Clarke Retweeted John Clarke

      You put it to me? There's nothing comfortable about either option. And they're not mutually exclusive. The 'system' does need fixing, but mustn't be allowed to become the sole focus of blame just because it conveniently avoids individual accountability.https://twitter.com/c7rky/status/1053582542694244352?s=21 …

      John Clarke added,

      John Clarke @C7RKY
      This is what happens when you allow 'the system' to take the fall. Learn not blame, eh? "Devon & Cornwall Police has pleaded guilty to health & safety breaches following Thomas Orchard's death in custody in 2012" "No individual person is being prosecuted" https://news.sky.com/story/thomas-orchard-devon-and-cornwall-police-admits-failings-after-custody-death-11529590 …
      2 replies 1 retweet 0 likes
    5. Cathy Welch‏ @Cjw450Cathy Oct 23
      Replying to @C7RKY @jsbamrah and

      But in this case have to ask if the outcome would have been different if the training, supervision and support of the individuals involved had been different- very likely would have been very different outcome.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    6. Cathy Welch‏ @Cjw450Cathy Oct 23
      Replying to @Cjw450Cathy @C7RKY and

      Therefore, the system’s lack of training and support is the key factor, not the officers as they were just the last point of contact. So, is justice served by convicting individuals at the end of a chain of failings when changes further up would have changed their actions?

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    7. John Clarke‏ @C7RKY Oct 23
      Replying to @Cjw450Cathy @jsbamrah and

      Yes, justice is served. Because a jury of people who exist outside of the medical bubble - just like me - judged her guilty, despite all that was going on around her, of being grossly negligent. 'In all the circumstances'. It bothers me that doctors dismiss that fact so easily.

      2 replies 2 retweets 3 likes
    8. Cathy Welch‏ @Cjw450Cathy Oct 23
      Replying to @C7RKY @jsbamrah and

      It bothers me that people assume that people always make ‘right’ or ‘wrong’ decisions, that juries always get ALL the relevant evidence, that they fully understand ALL the evidence much of which is placed completely new context that they have never experienced.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    9. Cathy Welch‏ @Cjw450Cathy Oct 23
      Replying to @Cjw450Cathy @C7RKY and

      There are many famous miscarriages of justice, and many more less famous. Not from individual or jury errors, but from over reliance on ‘concrete’ evidence or interpretations of evidence....

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    10. Cathy Welch‏ @Cjw450Cathy Oct 23
      Replying to @Cjw450Cathy @C7RKY and

      That’s not to say #BawaGarba is innocent or guilty, just that there is room for doubt from our perspectives as onlookers with only a fraction of the evidence. And there is no justice served by blind faith in authority or any given system

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      John Clarke‏ @C7RKY Oct 23
      Replying to @Cjw450Cathy @jsbamrah and

      Ironically, that's the point I've been making throughout - that the lack of evidence doesn't allow for the certainty of injustice which some claim. Hasn't stopped vocal groups from demanding law change on the back of it though.

      6:29 AM - 23 Oct 2018
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        2. John Clarke‏ @C7RKY Oct 23
          Replying to @C7RKY @Cjw450Cathy and

          I'm no fan of our CJS, but I believe the courts are the public's only check/balance re doctors that offers a sniff of true independence. I've no personal interest in the GNM charge, I just object to what I see as the open undermining of the courts/jury system - because it suits.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        3. Cathy Welch‏ @Cjw450Cathy Oct 23
          Replying to @C7RKY @jsbamrah and

          Not because it suits, more because it frustrates, and frightens honest people into feeling they may fall foul also

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        4. John Clarke‏ @C7RKY Oct 24
          Replying to @Cjw450Cathy @jsbamrah and

          I'm not sure how it frustrates, but I can see first hand how it has frightened. However, the risk to doctors has been overblown imho & I've found some of the claims to be opportunistic/inflammatory. Causing the fear in many ways. Did you catch my exchange of letters with Gordon?

          2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
        5. Cathy Welch‏ @Cjw450Cathy Oct 24
          Replying to @C7RKY @jsbamrah and

          Putting aside own opinions whether reactions justified or overblown, etc, it‘s worth acknowledging that reactions have happened, fear exists. and then ask why- far more complicated and deeper-seated than a single case, and influenced by far more than fear of ‘it could be me’

          1 reply 1 retweet 0 likes
        6. Cathy Welch‏ @Cjw450Cathy Oct 24
          Replying to @Cjw450Cathy @C7RKY and

          What you have observed is only the public face, the straw that broke the camel’s back- but that was only the latest trigger, behind which lies tonnes of other baggage that has been piled on behind the scene for years

          1 reply 1 retweet 0 likes
        7. John Clarke‏ @C7RKY Oct 24
          Replying to @Cjw450Cathy @jsbamrah and

          Now that makes far more sense to me. The emotional reaction has been impossible to ignore, so there's no denying it. I just happen to think those behind the scenes backed the wrong poster child for the cause and have allowed the cause to become far too protectionist in its focus.

          3 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
        8. Cathy Welch‏ @Cjw450Cathy Oct 24
          Replying to @C7RKY @jsbamrah and

          Increasing evidence that Revalidation and appraisal have made little/no difference to safety, no additional ‘unsafe’ Drs found vs pre-Revalidation despite huge financial cost to implement, and personal cost re: added workload for individual Drs

          2 replies 2 retweets 3 likes
        9. Dr Iain Campbell #FBPE #NHSLove #OurNHS‏ @DrICampbell Oct 24
          Replying to @Cjw450Cathy @C7RKY and

          No additional benefit to safety and distracts from patient care. It's created a huge industry in selling appraisals to doctors at more than £600 a pop and over £1500 for revalidation for no discernible gain.

          2 replies 2 retweets 4 likes
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        1. Cathy Welch‏ @Cjw450Cathy Oct 23
          Replying to @C7RKY @jsbamrah and

          There is no certainty either way. Though sometimes the short sound bites that characterise Twitter force is to be too succinct and sound more certain than actually are

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