Sorry, but that's part of the myth that's built up since the #BawaGarba propaganda machine kicked in (belatedly). GNM doesn't require intent - that would make it murder. Manslaughter charges exist to recognise just such a lack of intent where gross negligence proves to be deadly.
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Cathy Welch Retweeted Cathy Welch
No, I put it to you that a myth of evil is created to justify blame and extreme punishment for the obvioys cause- easier than facing the uncomfortable truth about a system set to fail.https://twitter.com/cjw450cathy/status/1054466730855153665?s=21 …
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John Clarke Retweeted John Clarke
You put it to me? There's nothing comfortable about either option. And they're not mutually exclusive. The 'system' does need fixing, but mustn't be allowed to become the sole focus of blame just because it conveniently avoids individual accountability.https://twitter.com/c7rky/status/1053582542694244352?s=21 …
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John Clarke @C7RKYThis is what happens when you allow 'the system' to take the fall. Learn not blame, eh? "Devon & Cornwall Police has pleaded guilty to health & safety breaches following Thomas Orchard's death in custody in 2012" "No individual person is being prosecuted" https://news.sky.com/story/thomas-orchard-devon-and-cornwall-police-admits-failings-after-custody-death-11529590 …2 replies 1 retweet 0 likes -
But in this case have to ask if the outcome would have been different if the training, supervision and support of the individuals involved had been different- very likely would have been very different outcome.
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Therefore, the system’s lack of training and support is the key factor, not the officers as they were just the last point of contact. So, is justice served by convicting individuals at the end of a chain of failings when changes further up would have changed their actions?
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Yes, justice is served. Because a jury of people who exist outside of the medical bubble - just like me - judged her guilty, despite all that was going on around her, of being grossly negligent. 'In all the circumstances'. It bothers me that doctors dismiss that fact so easily.
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Every now and again this pops up on my feed - and it's still the same arguments going around in circles. So much speculation. Is BG's criminal conviction going to be referred to CCRP? I can see why sanction disproportionate, I can't see gross miscarriage of criminal justice here.
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It was GMOJ cos convicting BG & nurse without ev. of collusion showed statistical ignorance.https://ripe-tomato.org/2018/02/08/dr-bawa-garba-and-nurse-amaro/ …
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It's a GMOJ because the numbers say so? It's an interesting line of argument and a fascinating set of stats, but I'm not sure it trumps a jury hearing the evidenced argument from both sides. Does make me realise how little I know about Nurse Amaro's case though, shamefully.
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Snap, sadly, re nurse Amaro. Not sure jury trumps sense tho'. Brexit ref. was democratic but does it trump sense?
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The problem for me is you're making an argument on stats alone, but without access to the evidence presented. Could equally indicate it's the stats that are wrong? Perhaps this is just the first time 2 people have been caught? Cover up culture is apparent from all major inquiries
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