No doctor wants "immunity" from anything We wake up every morning & have sleepless nights because we have dedicated ourselves to patient safety! What we want is a system that is safe The current system is NOT safe for patients And we are forced to take the blame It is not right
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Replying to @aislinnmacklin @KenZeroHarm and
Everybody wants a system that's safe. The only debate there is who is preventing progress. But current efforts are very much themed around uniquely securing immunity from GNM prosecution for doctors imho. Something I, as a member of the public, find to be objectionable frankly.
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Replying to @C7RKY @aislinnmacklin and
The distinction is doctors who intentionally set out to do harm and those that might do harm in the course of providing care to the best of their ability. The former should rightly be prosecuted. The latter need a more compassionate approach even if there are sanctions.
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Replying to @jsbamrah @aislinnmacklin and
Sorry, but that's part of the myth that's built up since the
#BawaGarba propaganda machine kicked in (belatedly). GNM doesn't require intent - that would make it murder. Manslaughter charges exist to recognise just such a lack of intent where gross negligence proves to be deadly.2 replies 4 retweets 3 likes -
Cathy Welch Retweeted Cathy Welch
No, I put it to you that a myth of evil is created to justify blame and extreme punishment for the obvioys cause- easier than facing the uncomfortable truth about a system set to fail.https://twitter.com/cjw450cathy/status/1054466730855153665?s=21 …
Cathy Welch added,
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Replying to @Cjw450Cathy @jsbamrah and
John Clarke Retweeted John Clarke
You put it to me? There's nothing comfortable about either option. And they're not mutually exclusive. The 'system' does need fixing, but mustn't be allowed to become the sole focus of blame just because it conveniently avoids individual accountability.https://twitter.com/c7rky/status/1053582542694244352?s=21 …
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John Clarke @C7RKYThis is what happens when you allow 'the system' to take the fall. Learn not blame, eh? "Devon & Cornwall Police has pleaded guilty to health & safety breaches following Thomas Orchard's death in custody in 2012" "No individual person is being prosecuted" https://news.sky.com/story/thomas-orchard-devon-and-cornwall-police-admits-failings-after-custody-death-11529590 …2 replies 1 retweet 0 likes -
But in this case have to ask if the outcome would have been different if the training, supervision and support of the individuals involved had been different- very likely would have been very different outcome.
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Replying to @Cjw450Cathy @C7RKY and
Therefore, the system’s lack of training and support is the key factor, not the officers as they were just the last point of contact. So, is justice served by convicting individuals at the end of a chain of failings when changes further up would have changed their actions?
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Replying to @Cjw450Cathy @jsbamrah and
Yes, justice is served. Because a jury of people who exist outside of the medical bubble - just like me - judged her guilty, despite all that was going on around her, of being grossly negligent. 'In all the circumstances'. It bothers me that doctors dismiss that fact so easily.
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Replying to @C7RKY
Every now and again this pops up on my feed - and it's still the same arguments going around in circles. So much speculation. Is BG's criminal conviction going to be referred to CCRP? I can see why sanction disproportionate, I can't see gross miscarriage of criminal justice here.
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I won't lie, it drives me crazy! Sight of the original transcript would help a lot, but as that's been notably withheld, I can only assume it might explain why there's been no such appeal. I didn't think erasure was disproportionate personally. I think public opinion is untested.
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