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That somebody with COPD for example has cause to avoid catching the flu is obvious. Whether or not the flu vaccine will help them achieve that is an entirely other question. One to which we have no scientific answer. Just 6 selectively published studies, from 14+ years ago.
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Is it just flu vaccine that you have issue with? How do feel about, say, polio or smallpox vaccinations? Do you think they are effective?
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Not at all. My concerns about lack of scientific underpinnings extend across the range of pharmaceutical interventions. Not limited to vaccines, but the flu jab is a regular discussion point for obvious reasons.
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Correct me if I’m being dim but my understanding of your answer is that you don’t believe in the efficacy of smallpox and polio vaccines. Can you elaborate please
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Eh? That's a bit of a leap. Some things prove their worth by virtue of their performance in the subsequent 'big trial' - public release. Other don't. Vioxx springs to mind.http://www.theweek.co.uk/us/46535/when-half-million-americans-died-and-nobody-noticed …
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Though even the seemingly most bulletproof examples I've noticed being questioned by some. "Which begs this question, what is the value of this polio-free certification when nearly 50,000 children fall prey to polio-like flaccid paralysis every year?" >https://www.thehindu.com/opinion/op-ed/is-india-actually-free-of-polio/article7945687.ece …
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I think the answer to your point is in the article itselfpic.twitter.com/z9EC7ZNgXA
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Appreciated. The point's not really mine but the author's. It's not an area I've personally researched. I just draw attention to the fact that questions are being asked. I presume only the vaccine can cause VDPV, even if it is also held up as the solution? My overall point stands
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You appear to concentrate on studies and I know you’re sceptical for personal reasons but look at the statistics,they speak for themselves; millions of lives saved worldwide every year due to vaccines.
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I think the reason I went looking is far less important in this instance than what I found when I did. And yes I concentrate on the studies. Why wouldn't I? They are the evidence in 'evidence based medicine' after all.
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Because, IMO, the study in question was picked because it confirmed your bias, studies should align with the stats and they do - that’s when we have true EBM. Hence why ppl with health problems are offered the jab and healthy not (Bar front line staff to protect public)
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Nonsense, Kerrie. I've been making the same point re clinical trials being quackery for years. Partially evidence based. I picked this review (of ALL available studies) because it was the topic under discussion. I've already acknowledged your point about health problems elsewhere
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Since the scandal where that guy fiddled the trials about vaccines causing autism I don't trust any of that "science". If he could do it anyone can.
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There's a scandal surrounding the whole matter all right. But there's far more scandal than advertised to discuss on that subject.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxr-cv-JuI8 …
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It's all made up, I am cured of "science"
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I'm a massive fan of real science. I just wish we'd try it some time for something other than military progress.
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